Watch the NBC Today show on Monday morning!

[jgrohol]

On Monday morning, the Today show will be featuring a Segway innovation. We don't know the exact time, but the show runs from 7:00 - 10:00 am in most markets.

Enjoy!


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[ZoliHonig]

New batteries??

Centaur??

New model???

Oh the anticipatioN!!!!



[8]-Zoli[8]

[pam]

Time to get the tape out and dust off the VCR. <G> Thanks!
Pam

[Itsi Atkins]

After looking at your site I wonder if Segway owners might need your advice as a professional. Have you had any knowledge of Segway addiction, or family problems of segaholics? Does a 12 step program work for segway dependent owners?
How about a Dear DocSeg q&a site?

[Stan671]

I just programmed my Tivo over the Internet to record the entire show.

Stan Dobrowski

[mattk]

Sounds cool, I'll be on the lookout. Maybe a new P model?

-MattK

[woodenapple]

It looks like our lives as segaholics will continue to remain interesting. There is always something to look forward to!

(We get to develop patience too)

Rodney

May all your days be Segway days!

[fredkap]

I just heard from a good source that it will be the Centaur! Should be fun!!!

Fred

[Deviant]

Thanks John, for the heads up.

Off topic:
As for the video tape recorders, I highly recommend going with a digital recorder (Tivo, ReplayTV, local cable provider box, etc.) Once you switch, you'll never want to lose it - even if you don't consider yourself an avid TV viewer, but only watch occasionally.

[Brooster]

Oooookay! I hope this is good. Here we go again ...

[8][:P]

Brooster

[SegwayUtah]

John, you are _killing_ me :)

Setting the Media Center PC to record the shows "just in case" . . . (and so I can rewind and watch it over and over and over again -- hee hee).

Chris

[GyroGo]

I have heard from a reliable source that it is an anti-gravity device. :D

[whistler]

A Segway with a built in TIME MACHINE???
It can go forward in time 1 hour for every 12.5 miles you ride it.

[dzdk6s]

quote:Originally posted by whistler

A Segway with a built in TIME MACHINE???
It can go forward in time 1 hour for every 12.5 miles you ride it.


How many of you have seen the movie "Timeline" perhaps someone has worked out the bugs.

[Brooster]

Yeah, X-Man's right.

Three hours is a lot of "Today Show" to sit through. Can't ya just tell us what the deal is? We're your most loyal customers anyway. Is it something that's really such a big deal that it has to be "revealed?"

Brooster

[lwillis]

Broo,
I totally agree with you.

Les Willis
Looking for a glide

[muckle]

>> I have heard from a reliable source that it is an anti-gravity device. <<

Oh, spliff! Where are you? Time for 'Hover Fever' again... (glad I've had my shots!) G

[macgeek]

I say its the Segway "golf" and the Segway "X1" (or whatever cool name they give it)
TWO new segways that will have new fenders, and Tires (the X1 is a 'off road' segway) and the "Golf" has the cool golf bag sidecar, and 'differant' tires.

Batteries... I dunno.. I think its a bit early for them to release it, But who knows.

BTW: THIS INFO IS A GUESS, THIS IS NOT INSIDE info.
I am just Guessing based on previous threads and rumors.

Jonathan
(call me Miss. Cleo)



Segway - "Let's Roll"
Centaur - "Lets Roll on all fours"
www.segwaygeek.com

[fredkap]

My good source was Carla Vallone. Expect to see the Centaur roar!

Fred

[pam]

Well, having seen the Centaur roar, I still would love to have it on tape... <G>
Deviant, the TIVO will come after the solar electricity/heating. And when are you going to come over and advise me on how to do that???? <G> Actually, my TV has a built-in VCR player. The next TV I go to, I'll go to one of the newer digital recorders. (Of course, someone will REALLY have to come and advise me then.)
Pam

[lwillis]

The off road and the golf one make the most sense. Why would they show the Centaur when there are no plans to manufacture it at the moment?

Les Willis
Looking for a glide

[Brooster]

And they've kinda already shown it. Well, only on the LLC's Web site and in Popular Science. That's not saying that there aren't more people who might be interested in seeing it.

Brooster

[mattk]

quote:Originally posted by L7

I don't know how many more ways I can hint to what is coming, read the other threads if you want to know. Maybe Sunday night I'll post pictures. ;)




*checks watch* Its sunday night

-MattK

[Hauptagon]

I have a class at that time tomorrow -- does anyone know if it will be available later on online?

-Justin

"We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams." -From Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory

[mattk]

quote:Originally posted by Hauptagon

I have a class at that time tomorrow -- does anyone know if it will be available later on online?

-Justin

"We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams." -From Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory


ditto

-MattK

[ElectraGlide]

I think it will be the time machine, that way we can go far into the future and get those new batteries !

Steve

[ZoliHonig]

Got my VCR set... can't wait

[8]-Zoli[8]

[momo]

Could anyone capture it on the computer, encode it with xvid and distribute it via bit torrent? We don't get this show here I'm afraid. :(

[ZoliHonig]

DOn't worry, I'm sure all those tivo users out there will host it.

[8]-Zoli[8]

[SegwayUtah]

Wow. Only 6.5 hours until the show. I'm surprised that there hasn't been any "leaked" news. I'm also kind of glad.

Chris

[Zorba9]

There has been leaked news. Yesterday afternoon for about 2 hours there was a picture of the offroad machine posted here on SC (very neat) Wayne and I both posted comments before the picture and following posts were yanked off this forum. I guess our own SCP (Segway Censor Police) didn't want to offend the powers that be, I checked with the poster to be sure he hadn't deleted.
Pretty rude behavior from one our moderators, protecting us from the "news".

KOG

Zorba9.....

edit- The rumors and innuendo on SC has always been one of "highlights" for me here on this forum.

[mattk]

did anyone grab a copy of the photo.. I also agree the mods should not have yanked it.

-MattK

[macgeek]

Well I always have thought that I can say anything I want here as long as I kept the wording cleSTOPan one of JON thing..

As I was saying the first ammSTOPdment .. hello is someone there?

HELLO. WE HAVE BEEN WATCHING YOUR POSTINGS AND WANT YOU TO KNOW, THAT WE HAVE BEEN WATCHING

I don't understand. are you saying that I cannot say whatever I want?

THATS RIGHT, THE WHAT DID ZORBA CALL US "SCP (Segway Censor Police)" ARE ON DUTY PROTECTING YOU FROM PRE-RELEASED INFO

well, thats very nice of you, but I want to know info before it is released, Im a segway fan! - a early adopter!

TOO BAD, ONLY "WE" KNOW, AND THE REST OF YOU HAVE TO WAIT

That Sucks

NO CURSING, YOU LOW LIFE

ohh that hurt

NOT AS MUCH AS THIS

ouch! - hey my segway just did a shutdown!

YES, WE HAVE A BUTTON...

ok.. I will be good

YOU BETTER, WATCH YOUR ***.

I love LLC! and they love me..
jonathan

[matevzg]

Macgeek,

I really don't know or care if this is a pre-release picture or info.
The action of deleting a post worries me and not the implications that it brings.

I'm inclined to think that admin(s) would not delete the post if it was a fake and/or speculation.

As was already said in one of the deleted posts - I think this looks like a toy. Hope the real model/mod is more serious.

Regards,
Matevz.

[mattk]

to be honest, I hope this is not a production machine. I Dont like the way it looks.

-MattK

[macgeek]

All it needs is a lawnmower on the bottom, and we got us a GARDEN TOOL FOR EXTREAME GARDNIN!!

:)

Jonathan


Segway - "Let's Roll"
Centaur - "Lets Roll on all fours"
www.segwaygeek.com

[jgrohol]

This should give you a hint...

http://www.time.com/time/2004/inventions/



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[FusionMag]

*gasp* IF it is the Centaur.... then alot of people have been wrong about it.

AJ

[dzdk6s]

Hey you east coast gliders - please post what was on the Today show as soon as it airs. You could save us west coast gliders from suffering through hours of the show. Thanks

[jawillis]

For those of you searching through DVR video... it started 2 hours and 15 minutes into the show.

...Go Doug!!

[ElectraGlide]

Al Roker trying a Centaur......that was it.....30 secs of fame.

Steve

[fredkap]

Segment...Time Invention of the Year... Doug Field wearing a goutee..Al Roker rides the Centaur on back wheels...no speed...very limited display of what it can do.

BTW, Doug is the Rodney Dangerfield of LLC. Al introduced him as if he were a salesman rather than the creator of the Centaur.

Time to head off to the gym. Sure glad I could watch at 6:20!

Fred

[lyor1]

OK, I saw this spot! I know alot of you were pretty stoked at the centaur being displayed and all that, but this is the worst possible showcase.

Putting Al Roker on a Centaur is doomed for failure!! 10 more seconds and he would have killed himself and Doug too!!


RLC - (yes, I'm a HT i owner)

[pam]

Pre-release information that Segway is holding non-disclosure agreements on in their files will not be shown on this forum. Sorry, guys. Anyone who insists on bringing the information to the forum will be moderated. Sorry, guys.
Pam (in her mod hat) -

[GyroGo]

quote:Originally posted by pam

Pre-release information that Segway is holding non-disclosure agreements on in their files will not be shown on this forum. Sorry, guys. Anyone who insists on bringing the information to the forum will be moderated. Sorry, guys.
Pam (in her mod hat) -

Hey, Pam, I'm not exactly sure what you're talking about, but I hope you are not saying that you would moderate speculation by someone not subject to a non-disclosure agreement. That doesn't seem right.

[dzdk6s]

quote:Originally posted by pam

Pre-release information that Segway is holding non-disclosure agreements on in their files will not be shown on this forum. Sorry, guys. Anyone who insists on bringing the information to the forum will be moderated. Sorry, guys.
Pam (in her mod hat) -


Aren't only those people who have signed the non-disclosure agreement bound by it? Or does that make you the info police for the site if someone ferrets out info and shares it prior to an agreement about information you are aware of? I do understand wanting to maintain a positive relations ship with Segway LLC, but its not like they haven't leaked before.

[matevzg]

+1

Moderating something that is already leaked is a non-issue. You have to stop the source, not the messenger.

Regards,
Matevz.

[Stan671]

I did not see the picture that was posted here, so I don't know if it was real. But if it was of the real thing, then someone has violated an NDA to take the picture and/or give it to anyone else. I am assuming that Pam (as moderator) does not want to support and encourage that kind of behavior by allowing the information to be posted here.

People who sign an NDA are not allowed to talk about the stuff until the info is officially released by the company. For example, because I signed an NDA, I got to see the Centaur the night before the info was released by Popular Science and then Segway LLC. If someone had posted a picture of the Centaur on Sunday night, I would not be able to talk about it (even though it was now public) because it was not officially announced.

I am willing to bet that everybody that has seen any new products that may or may not exist has signed an NDA. So, no information about new products should be publicly available. Therefore any information (pictures) of new products are, in effect, "stolen".

Check the Terms of Service - this forum is not a democracy nor subject the the concept of free speech. We would always hope the moderators would be reasonable and not limit the free flow of ideas and infomation. But they certainly can. I did not see the picture, but I support Pam's action if she felt the posting was inappropriate.

Stan Dobrowski

[fredkap]

Adding to what Pam and Stan have stated, while we all are as impatient as could be to see everything new, we also should allow the company to introduce product as they see fit. There are a lot of people working hard to do things right and a lot of money has been spent to get the company this far, let them move forward at their pace.

Fred

[jgrohol]

I would take anything you see or read online about "new" Segway products with a grain of salt. When the company has information about a new product ready, it will post it on its website. Until then, it's all just speculation (which is fine and fun when that's all it is!).

As for people posting copyrighted images without the permission of the owner of said images, or for those willfully violating their NDA, well, that will certainly cause some issues. If you don't want to get into trouble, simply don't do it...


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[ZoliHonig]

If there is a problem with the NDA, let LLC handle it!

It's not under the SC moderators jurisdiction.

IF LLC HAS A PROBLEM, [u]THEY</u> HAVE A RIGHT TO SUE OR FINE OR WHATEVER TO THE LEAKER.

[8]-Zoli[8]

[GyroGo]

quote:Originally posted by Stan671

...Therefore any information (pictures) of new products are, in effect, "stolen".

Well, I'm not passing any judgments about this specific circumstance, and maybe removing the pic was appropriate in this case, but the censorship statement just concerned me in general. I don't know that the moderators can always determine fairly whether information is "stolen" or not. Yeah, terms of service allows the power, but as a consumer of this service I have an interest in its quality.

Ironically, in this case, rather than wondering whether the pic was a private modification or Photoshop, it's removal with warning has only served to confirm that it is a Segway secret. [:O]

[dzdk6s]

quote:Originally posted by Stan671

Check the Terms of Service - this forum is not a democracy nor subject the the concept of free speech. We would always hope the moderators would be reasonable and not limit the free flow of ideas and infomation. But they certainly can. I did not see the picture, but I support Pam's action if she felt the posting was inappropriate.

Stan Dobrowski


I understand your above statement, but are we then to assume that Pam and all the SC moderators have signed NDA's, and Segway LLC sends them out "embargoed" Product information.

Was she removing the pic out of "knowledge" or "speculation"? And by doing so doesn't that change a "rumor" into "Fact"?

[ftropea]

For the record..

I don't ask - and am not told - of any stuff "in the works" or "to be announced" - Just what you see, stuff from Segway basically letting us know to "look out" for something the next week or so.. or to check out a magazine article, or a television spot.

I probably don't jump in soon enough to dispel this sort of stuff, so I hope that helps clear up this "SC has in inside scoop" talk.

That said, if someone from Segway LLC asks that something posted be removed (if, for example, it violates some NDA.. or copyright... or whatever), we surely give the request consideration and comply when warranted. We would give the same consideration to any company or individual who brought an alleged violation to our attention.

Finally, on the issue of moderation.. So little is moderated around here. For the most part, there is a lot of mutual respect and consideration. I'm proud of this community. You mostly moderate yourselves and your own discussion. We just keep the place clean.. pick up the bottles from the floor.. occasionally sweep, and on rare occasions show newbie, trouble-making weirdos the door :-)

(P.S. I've never held, seen, touched, signed a NDA in my life.)

Regards,

Frank A. Tropea

[/sc] Admin - "Keep your wheels on the ground!" - Contact Me (http://www.segwaychat.com/forum/pop_mail.asp?id=2)

[GyroGo]

quote:Originally posted by ftropea



That said, if someone from Segway LLC asks that something posted be removed (if, for example, it violates some NDA.. or copyright... or whatever), we surely give the request consideration and comply when warranted. We would give the same consideration to any company or individual who brought an alleged violation to our attention.



Fair enough, but the irony is that the action serves as verification.

[matevzg]

I have to say I don't agree with Stan's and fredKap's opinion at all.

NDA stands for non disclosure agreement. It does not stand for non redesclosure agreement and anybody who reposts the same information is not to be touched by any form of consequence.

That being said, supporting a company that instructs a non-formal chat site with posting behaviour is actually not supporting a company. In the long run, this is hurting it.

Position: I love LLC and it's products. I have to stress that if moderation comes from strict guidance of the company I do not like the PR processes they designed. If it came from the sole moderation efforts of SC admins, then this is another story.

Regards,
Matevz.

[matevzg]

I just noticed that one of my previous posts has been deleted too.

I'm done with this thread. I'm not posting anything that is subject to free of will deletion of SC admin(s).

[macgeek]

quote: and on rare occasions show newbie, trouble-making weirdos the door

:-)

I guess he is talking about me!

Jonathan


Segway - "Let's Roll"
Centaur - "Lets Roll on all fours"
www.segwaygeek.com

[wayne]

It's a shame from what I have read and seen the last two days that SC seems to be under LLC's control.
If LLC lets out a secret to someone and that person spreads the information I can see where that person was wrong and LLC should be upset but why should SC delete post and pictures? The harm has been done, copies have been made and lots of folks have seen it. Just forget it and go on to something else.
It looks like LLC has more pull than we know.
If you remember when Seg America was being formed that most did not want LLC to be pulling the strings. I don't think that would be good here on SC. Freedom of Speech is getting to be a problem more and more so lets not delete post from SC members unless LLC is pulling the strings.

After all it's just a new Seg not the end of the world.

If LLC didn't want the picture out they should have kept it a secret.


Wayne
Seg-On New Off-Road Seg

[macgeek]

And On a serious note:

If Its ON THE INTERNET, Its too late. The picture I posted CAME FROM THE INTERNET (of the segway golf) WHY WAS IT DELETED!

The same with the Segway "Off road" picture, it was from a web link, NOT from someones who signed a non-discloser Agreement.

Shame on [u]you</u> Segway, LLC. for trying to control info once its out.
Once its leaked, Its leaked. Live with it.

Jonathan Gleich

[hhaurgon]

Ya, what's the point? Once it's digital, it's everywhere.

Hugh

[florin]

Hi,

I fully understand Pam's situation. I'm working for a company where we also sometimes have to use NDA.

Besides of keeping information secret, it's also a matter of maintaining a good relationship (from SC's point of view).

When SC or Pam personnally signed a NDA, it wouldn't look good to have confidential information on a website of which you are moderator. Then SC will know for sure that LLC will stop coorperating with SC.

Now you might be saying, when it's leaked, it's leaked. But on the other hand we do all like the chat-sessions with the LLC people. When SC wouldn't keep it self to the NDA, we can for sure say goodbye to the close relationship with LLC (and thus also to those chat-sessions).

I won't say that moderation is a good thing in general, but in this situation I fully understand it.

In the meantime I just keep checking the SC and Segway website daily to see if there is any new bit of info regarding the new models.

Kind regards,

Florin

P.S. The only rumours/news I have heard are the red and yellow colored I's and the new batteries.



Visit http://www.florin-webdesign.nl/segwayinfo if you wan't to stay up-to-date on the situation about the Segway HT in the Netherlands.
http://www.florin-webdesign.nl/segwayinfo/uploads/cavt41287ea7e3ec0

[wayne]

You know in a way this is funny. After all LLC got the idea for the new Off-Road Seg from SC members who have already been there and done that. I don't hear them being upset because LLC used their ideas.
LLC owns SC members for all the new ideas, testing and advertising we have and are doing for them.
Have you heard a thank you yet?
So when someone finds new information out there don't blame them for wanting to share the news with the rest of us. If you remember in the past there have been photos of the LLC plant and photos of the first Segs and other so call TOP SECRET information that has been posted.
If LLC can't control their secrets why should SC do it for them?

Seg-On
Wayne

[ftropea]

I'm amazed...

I haven't even seen these photos.

It's also amazing to see how a few here can comment so much about something they apparently know so little about.

Check that - I'm not really amazed.

Oh, and again, we are NOT controlled by Segway LLC. They do not pull any strings. Read back for my exact policy on removing posts with copyrighted material. It doesn't matter if it's Segway LLC's stuff - or Wayne's Seg stuff - or Apple's - or Orange's.

And check this.. In this case, I didn't remove or edit anyone's posts. From what I've heard/read on this issues, I'm 100% behind Pam's decision. As always, Pam has excerised her mod abilities with wisdom and reason.

Regards,

Frank A. Tropea

[/sc] Admin - "Keep your wheels on the ground!" - Contact Me (http://www.segwaychat.com/forum/pop_mail.asp?id=2)

[GyroGo]

Well, this is getting complicated. I have to say that while I don't think SC should take it upon itself to police LLC's secrets, I can understand Frank's statement that requests to remove material in violation of intellectual property rights will be respected at the discretion of SC. The problem is when SC's discretion/judgement is in question.

In this case, IF the photo was an LLC copyright photo, I could see it being removed, and IF LLC knows the poster has signed a non-disclosure, it is reasonable to remove the post. The complication comes in removing others subsequent posts relating to the original (I'll allow it's a grey area), and in verifying LLC's rights they are asserting (should SC trust LLC?). I'm fine with accepting this process as it is, until/unless we see evidence of abuse.

[ftropea]

If you want to further discuss SC's policies, then please take it to our SITE FEEDBACK FORUM (http://www.segwaychat.com/forum/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=6)

Otherwise, let's get back on topic.

I believe Segway LLC showed something on TV this morning?

(Seriously, if folks continue to drive this topic Off Topic, I'll either move the thread, tickle you and/or freeze accounts! ;)



Regards,

Frank A. Tropea

[/sc] Admin - "Keep your wheels on the ground!" - Contact Me (http://www.segwaychat.com/forum/pop_mail.asp?id=2)

[GyroGo]

Frank, I respect that you run a tight ship, but.... what? "tickle me"? Is this forum admin terminology I'm ignorant of? Can I just get 30 lashes instead?

As a side note, if a whole thread takes a logical turn in a direction, is it really fair to say it's off topic? OK, back on topic:

This morning on TV, Segway LLC showed something that was not an HT with oversized wheels for off-road use.

testing the water, not trying to piss anyone off.

[KSagal]

I'm behind Pam and the moderators.

This forum is the responsibility of it's admin and moderators, and they do a fine job.

If something is posted and is inappropriate, they have all the rights to yank it.

If someone is in the possession of clandestine information and want to post it on someone else's website or forum, you take your chances.

This forum is not the possession of us posters, it is provided as a service from the above mentioned admin and moderators. Those of us that choose to abuse this service should be at the mercy of those in charge.

When I have a party at my house, people are welcome to come. Just because I have a party does not give my guests free rein to cause havoc. Anyone that does not respect the house rules is also welcome to leave. If they do not, they are invited to leave. Extend the metaphor yourselves to Frank and his family of moderators.


Karl Ian Sagal

Each road you travel should be just a bit better for having had you pass.

[ftropea]

That's a fine final word on the issue.

Now, let's get back to Segway discussion.

(I'll just mod any posts from this point forward.)

Regards,

Frank A. Tropea

[/sc] Admin - "Keep your wheels on the ground!" - Contact Me (http://www.segwaychat.com/forum/pop_mail.asp?id=2)

[KSagal]

So, I had to go to work this morning.

What happened? I don't watch network television much, and am not too familiar with these characters.

An earlier post said something about Al Roker? Isn't he the weather man? Did they ride in the street, or was this a taped thing done in the country somewhere?

I am still at work, and don't want to wait till later when I get home to my VCR...


Karl Ian Sagal

Each road you travel should be just a bit better for having had you pass.

[macgeek]

Frank its so nice to see you back!
Now would you answer some of my emails, huh? Please?
The segway was really cool looking
(see Im staying on-topic!)

Jonathan

Segway - "Let's Roll"
Centaur - "Lets Roll on all fours"
www.segwaygeek.com

[MagiMike]

Karl asked " What Happened ""&gt; A nice but brief view of Al Roker trying a Centaur. But without adequate training, it looked for a while that Al Roker was going to do for the Centaur what George Bush did for the Segway HT.


Gee, hope this post doesn't get me tickled or frozen.



Mike in Houston TX.
Happy Thanksgiving
http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/8/8_5_2.gif

[KSagal]

Thanks, Mike

By the way, I have been meaning to comment positively on your little animation at the bottom of your posts.

Very cute...

Karl Ian Sagal

Each road you travel should be just a bit better for having had you pass.

[ZoliHonig]

Can any Tivo people post the video???




---
[8]-Zoli[8]

[ElectraGlide]

quote:Originally posted by ZoliHonig

Can any Tivo people post the video???


It's not worth the time to post it.......it wasnt a segment about the Segway Centaur......the Centaur was just one of many products showcased for a couple seconds each of air time.... Al Roker didnt do much to convince even me to buy one.....perhaps he needed a little practice during a commercial break before the segment aired.

BTW...I dont have Tivo, nor did I record the episode on VCR
Steve

[SegwayUtah]

quote:Originally posted by MagiMike

Karl asked " What Happened ""&gt; A nice but brief view of Al Roker trying a Centaur. But without adequate training, it looked for a while that Al Roker was going to do for the Centaur what George Bush did for the Segway HT.

Mike,

You may be onto something there. I notice that Al didn't have to turn the machine on -- so I fear that he may need a little more coaching before let out on his own :)

It was cool to see the Centaur software kick in to keep Al in place when he landed down on all fours -- although the spinning wheels made him feel like he was out of control.

The Centaur on the show looked much like the "concept drawing" on LLC's website -- except with the standard black i-series wheels (with the divots cut out).

With a little more design work, this machine is going to be typical Segway super-cool. This update is way nicer than the photos on LLC's website, and I can't wait to see the final version later on.

BTW, the lack of fenders does scare me. I can see myself bumping up against the tires on that machine without too much difficulty -- especially the back ones. Again, it'll be cool to see the final design.

Chris

[macgeek]

Hey what's the weight limit on a Centaur anyway
Im sure Al was near it!


Jonathan



Segway - "Let's Roll"
Centaur - "Lets Roll on all fours"
www.segwaygeek.com

[Dwarf84396]

Well, for one of the interested, could someone take the effort to post the video? You will have my undying love! (unless that freaks you out :P)

Ben

My entire internet experience condensed into one little image:
http://ben.runslinux.net/img/smileys_lurking.gif

[Kfkm09]

I would also like to see the video. (I've GOT to get a Tivo!)

http://www.zonoid.com/ - Saving for 'IT'

[Brian]

I didn't think he was too good on it either. I did like seeing Doug, after meeting him at SegFest.

Brian

[KSagal]

I did set my VCR and I don't usually watch this kind of drivel...

Unfortunately, here in Boston, I guess we don't get the third hour of that show, Regis and Kelly came on and spouted some silly stuff.

So now I have a tape of three hours of useless television and still no pictures of Doug in his goatee.

Can anyone post a link to it, or does anyone know of a rebroadcast date?

Karl Ian Sagal

Each road you travel should be just a bit better for having had you pass.

[GadgetmanKen]

I deadfully watched the three hours, too. I wasn't surprised it was the Centaur. Although we here in SC land and all Popular Science subscribers already knew about it, I don't see what harm was done. I don't think Al was a good choice for doing the demo either. And come on, they didn't say they were gonna produce or market them anyway, did they? I afraid some of those products were pretty lame shown with it, were'nt they? Like a surf board with a lcd panel for internet communication, come on... Surf heads aren't that interested in the internet, are they? Like they are gonna look at it when they are trying to surf. Most of them can't spell anyway. Duh! Sometimes I think technology takes a wrong turn every now and then.

"Wouldn't it be cool, if?...is like Folgers in my cup"

[teekay]

I missed it too!

But did anyone see Fox & Friends this morning in New York?

I live on the left coast and got up early for a drink of water, switched on the tube and there it was, they were out on the street, live showing all the Hi Tech stuff, little yellow elect car, surf board with built in comuter, etc. And in the backround were 2 Centaur's!

They saved the Segways till last and had a great rider showing off in style!


:) Tim

[ElectraGlide]

quote:Originally posted by teekay

I missed it too!

But did anyone see Fox & Friends this morning in New York?


They saved the Segways till last and had a great rider showing off in style!


:) Tim

I knew there was a reason why I prefer Fox Channel! I'm sorry I missed that !

Steve

[Brooster]

So ... why couldn't the LLC (Sorry John, I don't mean to single you out) have come into SegChat and said, "Hey, the Centaur is gonna be on the Today Show!" ?

???

I really don't get it.

Brooster

[RAG1247]

Broo

John did tell us on page 2 in the form of a "hint" and a link to Time magazine



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[GadgetmanKen]

quote: So ... why couldn't the LLC (Sorry John, I don't mean to single you out) have come into SegChat and said, "Hey, the Centaur is gonna be on the Today Show!" ?

???

I really don't get it.


Me neither.

quote:John did tell us on page 2 in the form of a "hint" and a link to Time magazine

Yeah, like barely an hour before it was to be aired. I don't know why it couldn't have been anounced here as to what it was, because we all here had seen or heard about it.

"Wouldn't it be cool, if?...is like Folgers in my cup"

[GadgetmanKen]

Oh, by the way, has anyone noticed the cute little chirp as the front wheels on the Centaur hit the ground from the video on LLC's website. Its sounds cool. Its at the very end of the video.

Ooooh, just 6 more posts and I will have "SENIOR MEMBER" status. Woo Hoo... Looks like today will be the day.

Naah, I think I'll make the 500th post on Thanksgiving, that would be cooler. Don't ya think?

"Wouldn't it be cool, if?...is like Folgers in my cup"

[jgrohol]

What's there to get? I couldn't elaborate more because of the embargo agreement we had with Time (which is fairly standard for print publications)... Sorry.

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[pam]

And you certainly gave us plenty of notice, John. I was able to set my VCR.
Pam

[Stan671]

quote:Originally posted by Brooster

So ... why couldn't the LLC (Sorry John, I don't mean to single you out) have come into SegChat and said, "Hey, the Centaur is gonna be on the Today Show!" ?What do you mean? John's very first message that started this topic was on Friday 11/19 at 4pm saying that something interesting was going to be on the Today show on Monday morning.

Stan Dobrowski

[KSagal]

I agree with Stan.

Thanks for the heads up, John.

Tell us what you can and we will take it from there.

For those of us that don't like the amount of information we get, I suggest we complain about it on this forum. I know we all want to be reserved, but it's okay. You're among friends. Go ahead and complain. There is no reason to hold your tounge any longer.

Wait a minute... You ARE already complaining.... About everything! Even about things that aren't happening.

Wait a minute... Is this an enthusiasts forum or a dissenters forum... I may be in the wrong place...

I'm sooo confused....

Karl Ian Sagal

Each road you travel should be just a bit better for having had you pass.

[KSagal]

I hope no individual takes my previous post personally. I did not direct it to any person or group of people. I really do not want any one to be offended, I just wanted to point out that we do have a tendency toward a great deal of negativity.

I would rather the default of this forum to be positive, rather than negative.

I will apologize in advance, and I implore all to read this without taking it personally, but some people here call themselves enthusiasts, but complain constantly. With enthusiasts like that, who needs detractors?

Some people are enthusiasts, and have been positive in the past, and are unhappy with an event or series of events lately, and when those issues are resolved, will become positive again. These people, and I can think of a few off the top of my head, are not who I am speaking of.

I am speaking of those who came to this forum and complained from the start. Very rarely a positive word. Those people haven't earned their stripes, and just came on here to hurt the attitude of those here.

Those are the people who should decide what label they want, supporter or detractor. Be honest.

By the way, a copy is a copy. You cannot make another original. Segway is an original. The technology can be re-applied and similarly used, well or poorly, but will never be the original again.

Dean said it well at the end of the 10MPH ride. He said that we all know of the Wright Brothers' flight a hundred years ago. They were the first. He asked if anyone knew of who made the second flight. During the silence of everyone trying to recall, he said, "Who cares?"... The point was, First is original, the rest are not.

Karl Ian Sagal

Each road you travel should be just a bit better for having had you pass.

[Itsi Atkins]

Sounds like John with his posts about the Centaur and PT by posting the off road Seg on egadget started all this news. Two members who know LLC and what they will allow. If it is on the net it is open season for information.