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dave
10-11-2004, 08:56 PM
Where and when?




JaredHT
10-11-2004, 09:00 PM
My house...i'll order Pizza :)

....Mrs. Kamen....Can Dean come over and play?

Peace,

JaredHT
Jared M. Cavileer
Segway of Ohio

Segway of Ohio
330.535.2200
330.903.4100

Sunday
10-11-2004, 09:39 PM
How about Park City?

1. No hurricanes to worry about:)
2. 35 minutes from SLC Int'l airport
3. Great sidewalks and paved trails
4. Lots of other fun things to do too!


Mark

Escape the cage

wayne
10-11-2004, 10:15 PM
Will there be one?

How many were at Fest 04?
50, 75, 100, 200 or what?

Wayne

terryp
10-11-2004, 11:02 PM
If there IS one, it's the left coast's turn. You guys (and gals) would LOVE it in Seattle.

Segway - How do YOU get around?

Dwarf84396
10-11-2004, 11:07 PM
Atlanta?

Good public transportation is available, and there is a great downtown area. Plus, I could finally make it to a SegFest!

Ben

My entire internet experience condensed into one little image:
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fredkap
10-11-2004, 11:14 PM
Wayne,

You were definitely missed. I don't know the exact numbers but I would guess about 130 guests not counting LLC staff and Jim & Chandra Reynolds and their assistants. The big problem is the conundrum...everyone wants to do the party right...but it costs a lot of dough to do so.

Fred

Fred

ZoliHonig
10-11-2004, 11:17 PM
NY!!!

[8]-Zoli[8]

driley
10-11-2004, 11:21 PM
San Francisco!!! :)

Sal
10-11-2004, 11:30 PM
How about moving toward the left coast via the Midwest... a la St. Louis, or Indianapolis? Then The Fest will gradually move across this great Country.

-Sal

Think Different
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legpain
10-12-2004, 12:42 AM
If you look at a map Kansas is about in the center of the US, excluding Hawaii and Alaska, and may be held in that state. Some where in the middle of that state, say, Salina??

This way it's a drive for almost everyone except those that live IN Salina. Are there any Salinan's with Segways on this board?

YES?

John

macgeek
10-12-2004, 12:57 AM
I say L.A. or NYC

Jonathan

or better

VEGAS!!!!!!!!!



Segway - "Let's Roll"
Centaur - "Lets Roll on all fours"
www.segwaygeek.com

Brooster
10-12-2004, 01:02 AM
At this point the questions shouldn't be where and when, but if ... and who.

Who's going to undertake the enormous challenge of organizing it, and be willing to front the money to make it happen? Find the answers to those questions first, and then worry about where and when.

Brooster

mzokc
10-12-2004, 01:10 AM
It's Disneyland's 50th next year. Disneyland park will be in excellent condition after all the repairs this past year. Orange County, California would be my choice for a great vacation destination and SegwayFest location.

Mark

Sleepy
10-12-2004, 03:09 AM
If it was in San Francisco, the Bay Area SEG would be willing to help organize it. It's really the ideal city for Segways except for the fact that you can't ride them on the sidewalks!

Maybe a miracle will happen and we'll be able to get the law changed.

-Alex

GyroGo
10-12-2004, 06:00 AM
Blue Street parking lot, next to the canoe landing, Starbucks, and Panera :)

pam
10-12-2004, 10:00 AM
Hmmm, I would bet that it will NOT be any place where it's not currently legal - sorry guys, but don't get your hopes up. After all, if the city is having a hard enough time with us in ones and twos, having a hundred at a whack might "force" them into making a legislation that wouldn't work for us. But there are LOTS of other areas that might work. Someone even suggested Calloway Gardens, Georgia <G>. I'd just like it to be on a major airport with good transportation. But even that I'd forgo for a municipality with open arms. Now, Here's one that's not been discussed - Port Huron, MI.

We had a talk at the fest re: a philanthropist (a Mr. Acheson - I've forgotten his first name <sigh> but someone can chime in, I'm sure) who has bought a major chunk of the port area and who is reviving it - and reviving it to be Segway Friendly - they've got 14 of them now, and plans to purchase more as the area comes more online. I can see, at some point, (my fantasy, but not unreasonable) charging kiosks on wide sidewalks in view of outdoor cafes, etc. It's a consideration.

Pam

woodenapple
10-12-2004, 11:35 AM
The evaluation/survey form that attendees filled out at the end of this year's Fest asked where people want next year's to be. I heard it mentioned a couple of times that several places have already offered to host next year's. They included Pasadena CA, Amelia Island FL, and I can't remember the others.

It sounds like the Reynolds have not committed to doing it again next year, but that it is being considered.

Rodney

woodenapple
10-12-2004, 12:46 PM
I would like to encourage summer time while school is out. That should help make it possible for more families and for more college students to attend. Especially for people who have a long distance to travel, the Fest could be combined as part of a longer vacation.

Rodney

macgeek
10-12-2004, 01:27 PM
OK, I know where Sturgis, SD
if a half a million harley's can party there, why not
5000 segways!

Jonathan

Segway - "Let's Roll"
Centaur - "Lets Roll on all fours"
www.segwaygeek.com

gotseg
10-12-2004, 04:55 PM
sorry yall, it was decided loong time ago ~ DC ~ :)

http://www.giguphosting.com/gotseg/gotseg.gif
segless and looking

driley
10-12-2004, 07:01 PM
quote:Originally posted by woodenapple

The evaluation/survey form that attendees filled out at the end of this year's Fest asked where people want next year's to be. I heard it mentioned a couple of times that several places have already offered to host next year's. They included Pasadena CA, Amelia Island FL, and I can't remember the others.

It sounds like the Reynolds have not committed to doing it again next year, but that it is being considered.

Rodney


Hmm, Pasadena would be OK with me!

Devin
Pasadena, CA

Stewbonz
10-12-2004, 07:49 PM
Pam has an excellent idea.

JEFF JARVIS
http://www.thailandsegwaytours.com/

fredkap
10-12-2004, 08:04 PM
Pasadena or any other So Calif locale with a friendly hotel and town would be great. Florida is nice but the Rice brothers need to figure out how to eradicate the "no see ums" gnats. Those gnats were gnasty! We don't allow those type of bugs in sunny California.

Brooster, the fest was a success without you but we hope to have you and Wayne back next year.

Woodenapple, October was chosen rather than the summer months due to humidity and hurricane concerns in Florida.

Fred

Brooster
10-12-2004, 08:40 PM
quote:Originally posted by fredkap

Brooster, the fest was a success without you but we hope to have you and Wayne back next year.


Aside from the "keynote" that evidently sort of "wasn't," it sounds and looks like it was a great gathering, Fred. I know that Jim, Chandra and Matt--and a lot of folks at the LLC--worked awfully hard to make it nice. I'm glad you guys had a good time.

Brooster

wayne
10-12-2004, 09:21 PM
Fred,

Economy, Distance and just everyday problems kept me from making it.
Maybe if Jim, Chandra and Matt can do it again next year that is within my driving range I'll be there.
It's a LOT of work putting on something like this and I hope Jim doesn't burn out.

I feel like somewhere in the West will be where the next fest will be held.

Maybe is Seg America gets kicked off good this coming year they will be able to help support another Fest.
All it takes is money and time, does anyone have either? LOL



Wayne

god1138
10-12-2004, 10:57 PM
Houston... Houston... Houston.

Get the subtle undertones of what I'm hinting at for a host city?

It has a downtown that has been totally revitalized, a ton of A-Class hotels, convention centers, cultural centers, gliding space, and would be the PERFECT ATMOSPHERE for a Segway Fest. Besides, maybe Segway HT America would organize it and they've got some sway in town here.

Worth a shot... seriously a world-class contender. Good enough for the MLB All-Star Games (Minute Maid Park), the NFL Super Bowl (reliant Stadium), the Rockets having a new arena as well (Toyota Center), and the George R. Brown Convention Center, which has more than enough floor space to accomodate a gazillion Segways. If Chicago was a host city, there's no reason in the world to NOT come to Houston. Full of scenic beauty, historical significances, and plenty of amazing sights to see.

Anywhere else would be a travesty!

-Robert

You want a REAL city to have a Segway Fest in 2005? Houston is the CLEAR choice, and also a hub for several airlines.

So... for those of you who may be considering locations, I humbly submit Houston as the preferred city of choice for next year.

joelkfla
10-13-2004, 12:46 AM
quote:Originally posted by mzokc

It's Disneyland's 50th next year. Disneyland park will be in excellent condition after all the repairs this past year. Orange County, California would be my choice for a great vacation destination and SegwayFest location.
Sounds good, except that Disney does not allow guests to bring Segways into any of their parks!

driley
10-13-2004, 12:46 AM
As much as I would like to see the "Fest" be within driving distance of So. Cal. next year, Houston would be fun to see. I think Seattle seems the best to me though.

Devin

Burke
10-13-2004, 03:48 PM
The fact Houston is an airport hub makes it particularly attractive. Kind of centrally located, and as we flew in and out last night on our long journey home to California, Houston looked like a pretty inviting town from the air. Texans have great hospitality.

Vegas might be good, too--cheaper flights, and there must be good hotel deals there. Hyatt's Coconut Point was VERY, very nice and quite accommodating, but $189 plus taxes is still steep for a lot of folks.

I'd deliberately avoid Orange County due to Disney's stance. No point in rewarding them with any of our business.

Anyway, I'm not an organizer and would never be willing to go through what Jim and Chandra went through. I simply do not have the constitution and temperament for that. I would be dumbfounded if they agreed to have anything to do with another one.

I haven't caught up on a lot of the posts here yet, but the keynote that wasn't will go down in my mind as a monster, monster mistake. That said, the remaining support from Doug Field, Dana Brown, et al, was tremendous. The product development panel where the engineers took questions just made me remember why I love the company. Bless 'em for putting themselves out there for us.

Janice

IndyFIRSTengineer
10-13-2004, 05:08 PM
I heard it mentioned several times, and even written in the SegAmerica presentation, that discussions were underway for SegAmerica to take over the organization and planning of our annual SegwayFests. Any comments from the SegAmerica board??

Stuart Bloom - Rolls-Royce Corporation
FIRST Team 1018 - Pike High School "RoboDevils"

“Who goes out and says, ‘You have a better probability of winning the state lottery than making a nickel in professional sports. And by the way, last year two million exciting technical jobs went unfilled in this country because you weren't there to take that job. And it pays you 10 times as much as flipping burgers, and it's fun and it's exciting and you get to create things and build things and help make the world a better place and help make yourself a better living.’ Who tells them this?”
Dean Kamen, founder - FIRST Robotics

statmed
10-13-2004, 05:38 PM
quote:Originally posted by macgeek

OK, I know where Sturgis, SD
if a half a million harley's can party there, why not
5000 segways!

Jonathan

Segway - "Let's Roll"
Centaur - "Lets Roll on all fours"
www.segwaygeek.com



If it's in Sturgis I'll bring Harleys and Segways.

Best of both worlds!

H.M. Stern
statmed@optonline.net
www.segnyc.com
www.biker-glasses.com

I Love It When A Plan Comes Together (Hannibal Smith)

pam
10-13-2004, 05:46 PM
SegAmerica taking it over has not been confirmed, as far as I know. There are a lot of issues involved that need to be considered - first and foremost would be who is going to put up the money???? Even if you find a hotel with a lesser room rate of $100 a night, to guarantee - say - 3 nights of 150 rooms, you're guaranteeing 450 rooms, you have to agree to be responsible for $45,000 dollars - plus money for food, plus other incidentals. Somehow, with the $15/year membership fees, I don't see that kind of money being raised. <G>

Much less expensive SegFests can be arranged, of course, but they'd be more like regional gatherings for a picnic or so. I personally wouldn't go a long distance for that kind of a social function, but I would enjoy meeting up with fellow Segwayists.

All this is just my opinion. I was only present at portions of the conversation, and who knows what was discussed after I left <G>.
Pam

wayne
10-13-2004, 05:50 PM
quote:Originally posted by IndyFIRSTengineer

I heard it mentioned several times, and even written in the SegAmerica presentation, that discussions were underway for SegAmerica to take over the organization and planning of our annual SegwayFests. Any comments from the SegAmerica board??

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If Seg America plans on doing this they better get some dues in, it takes money to put together an event like that plus someone to oversee that things get done and done on time.
If this does happen maybe Jim will give a helping hand.

I would be for the summer time myself for the next Fest. June or July before it gets to hot.

Seg-On
Wayne

Snowgod
10-13-2004, 06:13 PM
I would like to invite you all to NH. We have some excellent locations and we are very Seg friendly. Waterville Valley would be my pick and you could ride for hours and not cross your tracks. Fall Foliage is the best and the prices would be right.

Live Free and Glide

www.whitemountainjoyrides.com

W9GFO
10-13-2004, 07:07 PM
My vote is for somewhere west of the Mississippi, way west.

There are many, many places that would be great for a gathering like Segway Fest. I think we should steer away from resorts and big cities (except for Seattle/Portland ;)). For example, years ago I went to a fun fly in Ida Grove Iowa. Thousands upon thousands of people swarmed into this small town to see radio controlled aircraft put on a show called "striking back". It was a great tme.

I'd like to go somewhere like that with nice parks, woods with trails and a meeting place that could handle the few hundred attendees. I'll bet there are dozens of hidden gems around the country that would be perfect - and affordable.

Rich H

The Un-Official Segway Battery FAQ
http://www.spinfoot.com/SegwayBatteryFAQ.html

Stan671
10-15-2004, 10:58 PM
Speaking as a private citizen, since I live in New Jersey, I would have to offer the suggestion for a Fest in NJ. EPAMD's are perfectly legal here in NJ and the NY'ers could come across the river.

Speaking as the President of SEG America, I will have to say that Pam is right. A national SegwayFest is a major undertaking in terms of time and effort and up-front money. I don't know that SEG America is ready for such an effort right now. And, more importantly, there have been no talks between SEG America and the current Fest organizers about any of this. So, it would be wrong to speculate about how any future national Fest's would be done.

Speaking as a practical person looking at the last two Fests and the feedback I am hearing here, it seems that a good idea, during the next year or more, might be to have several smaller, regional Fests in areas where Segway's are popular. These smaller events would last perhaps 1.5 days (Sat and Sun) with no overnight stay required for some, one overnight stay for most and two nights at most for travelers. It would be easier and less costly to organize these events and the lead time would only be a few months rather than up to a year for a national event. And a regional event would be well attended by the local owners and enthusiasts since the cost of travel and attendance would be much smaller.

All of these local Fest events could culminate in the next national convention taking place in about one to two years from now.

Stan Dobrowski

teekay
10-16-2004, 12:13 AM
Good point Stan, what state has the most HT's?

Stewbonz
10-16-2004, 12:24 AM
If SegwayLLC sponsered the event every year at the factory, I think the turnout would be impressive.


JEFF JARVIS
http://www.thailandsegwaytours.com/

Stan671
10-16-2004, 01:16 AM
For SEG America's country distribution, see topic:
www.segwaychat.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9242

For SEG America's USA state distribution, see topic:
www.segwaychat.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9241

The top states in order are:

425 California
235 Florida
214 Texas
211 New York
136 Illinois
122 Pennsylvania
110 Ohio
110 Washington
103 Michigan

Stan Dobrowski

Stan671
10-16-2004, 01:19 AM
Having a national convention at the Segway factory has been discussed on this forum before. There is not much to do in Bedford, NH. The factory is not all that big and many parts of it are off limits to visitors. And there is no easy/cheap way to get to Bedford from most of the rest of the country.

It might be a good place for a New England regional meeting, though.

Stan Dobrowski

mzokc
10-16-2004, 01:34 AM
quote:Originally posted by joelkfla

quote:Originally posted by mzokc

It's Disneyland's 50th next year. Disneyland park will be in excellent condition after all the repairs this past year. Orange County, California would be my choice for a great vacation destination and SegwayFest location.
Sounds good, except that Disney does not allow guests to bring Segways into any of their parks!
I am not suggesting having SegwayFest in Anaheim, but rather a nice coastal or resort location. Being in the Orange County area gives the attendees lots of options for vacation opportunities.

Check the photo tour of this perfect resort next to the Pacific Ocean:

http://www.ritzcarlton.com/resorts/laguna_niguel/photo_tour/meetings/plaza.asp

Mark

Brooster
10-16-2004, 03:52 AM
You guys keep talking about SegwayFest like it's "a given" that it's going to happen again.

Why? Have you guys considered the fact that the organizers lost a good chunk of change two years in a row? We all love the Seg ... but we just can't allow this to happen to our friends again. No way. This idea of "owner organized" SegFests has run its course.

If the LLC has the resources to make it happen again, God bless 'em. I was a volunteer on the 2003 committee, and I'll never do it again. I can't imagine anyone wanting to.



Brooster

wayne
10-16-2004, 12:30 PM
SegFest is like any new product on the market. You will loose money for a few years until the bugs are worked out and the event should not cost you half the price of a Segway go to.
This years location (to me) was not a big plus for the fest.
I still say if LLC put on their thinking cap they would put on similar events
around the country with the idea of promoting the Seg and Seg products.
They should carry 10 to 15 Segs with them plus all the accessories they can when going to an event like this. A lot of people buy items on the spot and if you have Segs there someone may get the fever and purchase one.
I also feel the general public should be invited. Cut down on the cost to get in. $200 to $300.00 is just to much to ask for someone just to meet other people.
I've gone to car shows for years and the cost to get you and your car in for a three day show was never over $50.00 and you even had a chance of winning a couple of hundred back. We never had a dinner we had to pay for and we all had a great time. They pushed for aftermarket items, special interest items and even had stuff for the small kids to do.
This thing about kids not allowed I can't see. Let the public and their kids come in, who knows you may sell 10 Segs that day.
LLC started out wanting everyone to think the Seg was just for adults, some kids have more money than adults.
LLC also started out with this safety thing, don't ride fast, don't do this and etc. but now on their web site they show people riding in an aggressive way. Now with the Centaur that may come out are they going to limit it just to adults?
LLC get you a couple of vans, pack them to the doors with Segs and stuff and start going around the country putting on small week-end shows and start letting the public come in and get a look.
I'm sure some of the owners now would be glad to help LLC put on an event in their area.
I would say if LLC did this and went around the country and put on 4 events a year all across the states that their sales would go up, more Seg owners could attend a Seg event.


Seg-On
www.kcaps.com

Stan671
10-16-2004, 01:02 PM
Wayne, you make a good point about a Fest that is not just for owners and hard core enthusiasts. Have a Fest for O & HCE is like preaching to the choir. I doubt this year's Fest sold any Segway HT's. It sold a few accessories, but I doubt Segway made any money on them between the costs to get them there and the show discount.

However, something like a traveling "Ticket to Ride" show to get the Segway name out to the public and get people riding machines is a great idea. This could be coordinated with activities of the local SEG group in the area so that the general public can see the machines and meet the company, but also so that the general public can talk with owners and see some of the mods owners are doing to their HT's. The public can get the company line from Segway and then see the real work usage from owners.

Perhaps the regional Fests that we are considering could be this mixed bag. The general public gets into the show for a few bucks and can mill around and go to the vendor area and get into some seminars. And there will be a higher cost admission that gets the attendee into the harder core seminars. And we would encourage non-owners and the mildly curious to attend the event.

Stan Dobrowski

wayne
10-16-2004, 01:11 PM
Now you got it. See if Seg America can pass this information to LLC.


Wayne

Brooster
10-16-2004, 03:33 PM
quote:Originally posted by Stan671

However, something like a traveling "Ticket to Ride" show to get the Segway name out to the public and get people riding machines is a great idea. This could be coordinated with activities of the local SEG group in the area so that the general public can see the machines and meet the company, but also so that the general public can talk with owners and see some of the mods owners are doing to their HT's. The public can get the company line from Segway and then see the real work usage from owners.


This is precisely what some of us did with the LLC on a local level during some of the early "Ticket to Ride" events. The GlideMaster and I used to show up at the events and back up the LLC by providing extra demos and actual owner testimonials for the product. It's where the GlideMaster first met Fathertime (I wasn't there that day), and where we first met the X-man. It wasn't the LLC who sold the X-man his machine ... it was us.

These were great gatherings, and I think they did a lot of good for the LLC and for the community. The Ticket to Ride events were quietly discontinued when the LLC evidently decided it no longer wanted--or needed--to be involved in marketing its own products. That was around the time that the LLC apparently decided that we'd do their job for them. Evidently, some of that way of thinking persists to this day, and I think it's a good part of why we don't see anything happening in the way of marketing.

Anyway ... combining elements of the old Ticket to Ride events with SegFest--and community involvement-- on a smaller, more frequent basis .... may be a possible solution.

But I still don't know who's going to pay for it. I'd be shocked if the LLC actually decided to step up and support this sort of thing. I just don't see it happening.

Brooster

driley
10-16-2004, 04:11 PM
I would really like to see something like the ticket to glide events happen. A traveling Seg road show. They could have a big rig travel the county to key markets and events. Backed up by local advertising, I would think that it would be a good thing all around. Especially if local users were encouraged to participate.

Devin

PoloAk
10-16-2004, 06:04 PM
Let me assure all of the enthusiasts that it'll be a cold day in h-e-double hockey sticks before I conceede to giving up SegFest. I would like to know if others are interested in a New England regional so please email me or post here in the thread. Currently it is just an idea I've thrown into the mix and I **do not in any way** want to step on the toes of our gracious hosts Jim and Chandra and Matt.

That being said, change is good. It was a struggle to get to FL this year and miss work/college. Personally, a short, two day, family oriented (for the non seggers), regional event is something that I hope we can plan for 2005. As the population of enthusiasts grows there can't be a "perfect" time we'll all be free but getting together to meet and glide can't be beat.

All would be welcome at the regional, but I'd like to have a family vacation a la segway for local owners.

TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK :)

Kelsey

"Half of the world has an IQ of less than average. Think about it. . ."

RAG1247
10-16-2004, 06:40 PM
quote:Originally posted by Brooster

quote:Originally posted by Stan671

However, something like a traveling "Ticket to Ride" show to get the Segway name out to the public and get people riding machines is a great idea. This could be coordinated with activities of the local SEG group in the area so that the general public can see the machines and meet the company, but also so that the general public can talk with owners and see some of the mods owners are doing to their HT's. The public can get the company line from Segway and then see the real work usage from owners.


This is precisely what some of us did with the LLC on a local level during some of the early "Ticket to Ride" events. The GlideMaster and I used to show up at the events and back up the LLC by providing extra demos and actual owner testimonials for the product. It's where the GlideMaster first met Fathertime (I wasn't there that day), and where we first met the X-man. It wasn't the LLC who sold the X-man his machine ... it was us.

These were great gatherings, and I think they did a lot of good for the LLC and for the community. The Ticket to Ride events were quietly discontinued when the LLC evidently decided it no longer wanted--or needed--to be involved in marketing its own products. That was around the time that the LLC apparently decided that we'd do their job for them. Evidently, some of that way of thinking persists to this day, and I think it's a good part of why we don't see anything happening in the way of marketing.

Anyway ... combining elements of the old Ticket to Ride events with SegFest--and community involvement-- on a smaller, more frequent basis .... may be a possible solution.

But I still don't know who's going to pay for it. I'd be shocked if the LLC actually decided to step up and support this sort of thing. I just don't see it happening.

Brooster



Brooster

I could be wrong, but I think LLC did contribute monetarily to this year's fest



Richard
Ft. Lauderdale

If you can’t change the people around you, change the people around you [img=right]http://www.sonyguy.com/rageagle.jpg[/img=right]

Stan671
10-16-2004, 08:13 PM
quote:Originally posted by Brooster

But I still don't know who's going to pay for it. I'd be shocked if the LLC actually decided to step up and support this sort of thing. I just don't see it happeningWell ... I hope you get electrocuted! <grin> But I mean that in a good way. With SEG America, Segway LLC and local SEG's, I think there will be some movement in this area.

Stan Dobrowski

Stan671
10-16-2004, 08:16 PM
quote:Originally posted by PoloAk

Personally, a short, two day, family oriented (for the non seggers), regional event is something that I hope we can plan for 2005. As the population of enthusiasts grows there can't be a "perfect" time we'll all be free but getting together to meet and glide can't be beat. All would be welcome at the regional, but I'd like to have a family vacation a la segway for local ownersI am right there with you, Kelsey.

Stan Dobrowski

Stan671
10-16-2004, 08:18 PM
quote:Originally posted by RAG1247

I could be wrong, but I think LLC did contribute monetarily to this year's festI'll bet that they did. Segway was a full Kamenite sponsor of Segway Fest 2004. Other, smaller sponsors had to pay money to be sponsors.

Stan Dobrowski

RAG1247
10-16-2004, 09:36 PM
quote:Originally posted by X-man

Contributing is a far cry from underwriting.
I contribute to the Red Cross, among other charities, bu what I give doesn't cover their budget.


Bob
Now - about those promised extended range batteries....


let me change my words............

I am confident that LLC paid a substantial sum towards segfest (whose budget doesn't remotely approach that of the Red Cross) and I am similarly confident that a segfest will occur next year, whether it be better or worse, large or smaller, since we have a bunch of people who enjoy seeing each other periodically, and segfest seems to be a part of llc's philosophy. It certainly can be toned down in terms of a 2 star, non resort hotel/location, more readily accessible by all parts of the country; we don't need space for vendors, etc.



Richard
Ft. Lauderdale

If you can’t change the people around you, change the people around you [img=right]http://www.sonyguy.com/rageagle.jpg[/img=right]

PoloAk
10-16-2004, 10:22 PM
After working with/for FIRST for 5+ years I have adopted a motto that is on all of my business cards:

"We have done so much with so little for so long we are now prepared to do anything with nothing."

Anything less than perfect is not acceptable, but i'm confident that we can pilot a nice little regional event. 'Course I've now put myself on the line here so I guess I'd better get started :)

And just like taxes, there's nothing on the books that says you can't pay more than what you're asked to! Remember that for SegFest! 2005

Kelsey

"Half of the world has an IQ of less than average. Think about it. . ."

wayne
10-16-2004, 10:44 PM
quote:Originally posted by PoloAk


And just like taxes, there's nothing on the books that says you can't pay more than what you're asked to! Remember that for SegFest! 2005

Kelsey

That could be part of the reason for the low turnout at Fest 04.




quote:"Half of the world has an IQ of less than average. Think about it. . ."


Ok, I guess I'm less than average. Anymore IQ would make me average, that's when you stop having fun. lol



Seg-On
Wayne

mzokc
10-17-2004, 03:16 AM
I have not posted this before, but there was a major reason for my not attending this year. The SegwayFest schedule required a multiple day visit. Not a problem with a day drive from OKC to Chicago because hauling the HT in the car and driving saves money. But OKC to FL was 1600 miles, so flying was a must. But I couldn't fly in for a day and enjoy a complete "HT owner" experience. To fully enjoy Saturday would require renting an HT for the "Scavenger Hunt."

Individual owners need the ability to spend a single day and enjoy seeing what is new and learn Segway facts that bring us up-to-date. Here is a suggestion:

Thursday - information for city planners and goverment
Friday - information for dealers
Saturday - information for owners
Sunday - fun events for those who brought Segway HT's

The government and business folks could stay 3 or 4 days and charge it to their business or city. They could take weekdays off from their business or city schedule.
The owners could stay 1 or 2 days and do it on a weekend.

It's just a thought, but it's important to express our thoughts to help future planners of SegwayFest.

SegwayFest is an event that every owner should attend at least once to gain maximum knowledge about the HT. The time spent in Chicago was fantastic. Those attending the Florida SegwayFest enjoyed another great meeting. Each SegwayFest should always be geared to provide the maximum help for new owners and addtional information and fun to those who attend again and again.

Mark

KSagal
10-17-2004, 05:43 AM
I am also not ready to just give up on the segfest idea. Segfest 2004 was top shelf all the way. I enjoyed it, but this annual event needs to not just rotate around to different parts of the country, but also to other economic alternatives.

I likes the resort, but I would hate to see people in a position to not go because it is just too much money. Again, I did enjoy myself, but I have never paid so much for a trip for myself to Florida for the weekend.

During the summer seems more easy to schedule, so that it will not interfere with the school year, for the educating/educators among us...


Kelsey!

I think that a regional fest is not only a great idea, but keep me informed, and let me know if I can help. I am sure you will organize a fun time for all who attend.

I won't speak for anyone else, but I not only had a good time, but would enjoy periodic opporatunities to see segging friends and associates.



Karl Ian Sagal

Each road you travel should be just a bit better for having had you pass.

dgbint
10-17-2004, 07:42 AM
Hi

I am in Australia.

My vote for 2005 ( if it can happen ) would be for Las Vegas.
Here's my thinking:

1 There are heaps of places, just off the strip that are pretty economical (certainly under $100 a day).

2 There are lots of flights and some cheapies too.

3 It hardly ever rains.

4 The streets are big and broad.

5 Food sure is cheap.

6 There's lots of other activities, if you come earlier or stay later.

7 It sure is closer to Australia than the East Coast.

Michael

Stewbonz
10-17-2004, 11:21 AM
Vegas is an excellent idea with all the cheap package tours available. I had a flight from San Fran and 4 nites at the a Mirage for $250.
To hot in the summer though.

JEFF JARVIS
http://www.thailandsegwaytours.com/

Sleepy
10-17-2004, 12:31 PM
I'm sure LarryL can tell you more about why Vegas is Segway Un-friendly.
I don't think you're allowed to glide on the strip. I'd be very surprised if there would be a casino willing to host the fest.

-Alex

dlrs
10-18-2004, 02:52 AM
FYI - Vegas would be a super location. Vegas is not unfriendly to private Segways, just to Rental Businesses. We have riden Segways all over Vegas with out a problem. Sidewalks in Vegas are privately owned by the landowner (aka Casinos), so as long as they welcomed Segfest it would be great.

Rachel Stratford
Segway of Southern Utah

Scenic Segways
Segway of Southern Utah

Freddy
10-19-2004, 12:49 AM
The idea of a national traveling " Ticket to Ride " show is aready in the works
We're working on it
Freddy

woodenapple
10-19-2004, 11:26 AM
quote:Posted - Oct 18 2004 : 10:49:30 PM
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The idea of a national traveling " Ticket to Ride " show is aready in the works
We're working on it
FreddyWho is "We" ?

Is Segway LLC involved at all?

Rodney