how do you take the wheels off??????

[RAG1247]

getting ready for segfest

tried to take wheels off midnight black I170 and what a job........

with the I167 it was a nothing job

with the I167, the 16 mm socket dropped over the nut

with the I170 wheels, it would appear that the id of the wheel opening is somewhat smaller so that you need to place the socket on with a hammer - finally got it off - quality control needs help



Richard
Ft. Lauderdale

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[Stewbonz]

Some socket wrenches have a thicker wall.
Are you using the same tool as you used on the older Segway?


JEFF JARVIS
http://www.thailandsegwaytours.com/

[RAG1247]

quote:Originally posted by Stewbonz

Some socket wrenches have a thicker wall.
Are you using the same tool as you used on the older Segway?


JEFF JARVIS
http://www.thailandsegwaytours.com/


same tool - slides into wheel cavity on I167 wheels but on I170 wheels there is interference on id of cavity that socket must go in to contact nut - hammer helped - will cut od of socket slightly tomorrow -



Richard
Ft. Lauderdale

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[teekay]

Richard, It is a very tight fit, but a thin wall socket does the job well!

And yes the I167 wheel has more wiggle room!

Look at my past post's on the fender exchange, I didn't want to force anything, and yes it will fit if you tweak it!

:) Tim

[legpain]

Why is it everyone one blames QC? Don't you know that all QC can say is that the part was built to spec? If it doesn't fit or work it was more than likely engineered wrong. If the blueprints are drawn wrong then QC will call the parts correctly made wrong, get it?

Please blame the engineer who designed the part if you have to blame someone...

John

[RAG1247]

quote:Originally posted by teekay

Richard, It is a very tight fit, but a thin wall socket does the job well!

And yes the I167 wheel has more wiggle room!

Look at my past post's on the fender exchange, I didn't want to force anything, and yes it will fit if you tweak it!

:) Tim


seems to me to be a quality problem and I have notified Mr. Field - does work with large hammer though



Richard
Ft. Lauderdale

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[teekay]

John, it's not QC!

Designs seem to change, thats the point here, I have seen it first hand, and I am lucky to have my local dealer to help!

I don't force anything, but looked like a fool when they flexed the fender and bolted it up just like nothing!

They knew how to tweak it. The design changed it's that simple!

:) Tim

[RAG1247]

quote:Originally posted by legpain

Why is it everyone one blames QC? Don't you know that all QC can say is that the part was built to spec? If it doesn't fit or work it was more than likely engineered wrong. If the blueprints are drawn wrong then QC will call the parts correctly made wrong, get it?

Please blame the engineer who designed the part if you have to blame someone...

John


qc and inspection can work incorrectly or as you might suggest tolerances are too wide - gray wheel and black wheel should have same dimensions



Richard
Ft. Lauderdale

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[teekay]

They do not, take it to the bank, I have both and the specs don't match!

:) Tim

[RAG1247]

quote:Originally posted by teekay

They do not, take it to the bank, I have both and the specs don't match!

:) Tim


I'm not sure of what you are saying, but it is crazy if the two wheels are dimensioned differently where the socket must be inserted



Richard
Ft. Lauderdale

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[Brooster]

Remember the recent article about the LLC using a new BASF nylon wheel material? Perhaps the wheels are made by a completely diferent manufacturer who didn't use the original specs? More questions for you guys at SegFest.

Brooster

[Deviant]

Good QC should not only fail things that aren't to specifications, but should also flag things that may be difficult, counter-intuitive, confusing, inefficient, etc. As such, they should be utilized at every stage of a process.