Segway & Some Disabilities

[tak]

Before note: I wonder if this could be a thread to collect people who fit in any category of disability who expect to benefit from the Segway. Anybody else??????? Of course, anybody is invited to write anything.
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I know that the Segway was not designed for people with disabilities, but I am betting that there is a level of disibility which will be "saved" by the Segway. I probably wouldn't be dreaming about it as much if I had the strength to walk a lot, but with the Segway I'm expecting a whole new lease on life. My particular health problem is called Still's Disease, but I'm sure there are a level of people out there which don't have the strength to walk far. I/we are perfectly able, but will get sick from using too much of my precious energy. I have always loved to walk and soooooo much miss walking out in nature. I'm not planning on the rugged, wild areas, but often even these areas have walking paths on them. I guess I'll be the tester for just how rugged is safe, but I'm an old guy, (well,starting) so I'm sure I won't over do it as I learn how much it can handle. I plan to keep one of my miricle inventions, the cell phone with me but I expect not to take chances, just to be out there. There are also plenty of roads in these areas with hardly any cars, so, will I get a new lease on life? (bad grammer?) I'm sure dreaming about it!!!!

Also, I just bought the roomba vacuum for my low energy. There's plenty to get upset with in the world, but isn't this a great time! Tom

[Brooster]

Tak, it sounds to me like you're gonna love your newfound capabilities. Please be sure to sign into our "Owners' Roll Call" thread up top.

Broo

Brooster

[herpos]

Tak, I too have a mobility disability (muscular dystrophy)and having tried the Segway aboard the Disney Magic a few weeks ago, I am buying one as well. The only real concerns are 1. an ability to step up on the platform (but the central staff helps that and a cane can also help) and 2. an ability to stand somewhat erect rather than lean over and obviously 3.the distance of the glide will depend on standing stamina.
But in every case this is much better than any method for getting around (even for the normal folks)

[hodgepoj]

quote:Originally posted by tak

I wonder if this could be a thread to collect people who fit in any category of disability who expect to benefit from the Segway. Anybody else???????


Mrs. Hodgepoj and I will both use our HT to help us get around, Tom. When I ordered it in November, I thought it would help her go farther and faster without losing her breath (she has emphysema). Then in December I was diagnosed with ostroarthritis in my hip, so I now walk with a cane -- more slowly than she does.

So when our HT is delivered we'll take turns seeing how it helps our mobility. If it's as good as I think it will be, we'll order a second one so we can glide around the neighborhood together.

What is Still's Disease? Does it just rob you of energy or does it also make you weaker or less limber?

hodgepoj


hodgepoj

[casterman]

i am not disable but i have only a rigth hand(no left) does anyone knows if the HT can be retrofitted to be steered on the rigth.
thanks
Kemal

[pam]

quote:Originally posted by casterman

i am not disable but i have only a rigth hand(no left) does anyone knows if the HT can be retrofitted to be steered on the rigth.
thanks
Kemal


Contact Segway at 866-4Segway - I'm guessing they're the only one who really knows at this point. Haven't heard of it being done, but we also are a somewhat limited subset of all the existing Segway owners.
Pam

[jillmac]

Tom: There are quite a few of us here with mobility problems (for me MS) who are finding a whole new lease on life with the Segway. To be able to 'walk' the country lanes and run into town on a whim without pulling out the car is just wonderful.

It's such a joy to actually be 'out there' rather than stuck in a car with the windows up. I am having the best fun I have had in years and the Segway has proven to be better than any medicine that could be prescribed!

Happy gliding.

Jill

Nothing is inexplicable, merely unexplained..... Dr. Who

[MONTIE]

My wife has had back surgery and can not walk long distances however, gliding makes all the difference..Montie

[Lazarus]

Hi Tak!
John and I have been wondering how you are doing. I use Seg every day now and have experience with all terrains.

Deviant (member of this board) changed my red and my yellow key to have the turning speed of the black key (slower) and it has made gliding a lot safer for me.

Glad to hear how you are doing with your Segway.....Linda

[casterman]

I called Segway about the retrofitting and.. I got a polite we are sorry but even at that price we do not support people with disabilities. I have to say i just tried a Segway it is definitely a revolutionary idea. However i feel very disappointed that they do not even pretend or try to help challenged people. That’s not revolutionary sound very old fashion to me. I did not use to have this problem on my left side a year ago. Now i can really experience what physical limitation are all about? Any way hopefully some other company more proactive an wiling to be integrated in our society might under some kind of license build more customizable solution.
Kemal

[jillmac]

Casterman - I'm sorry to hear that nothing can be done - you never know - with all the customization that goes on as far as attachements etc. some enterprising person will probably come back with an answer.

Someone here gave a demo to a double amputee with prosthetic legs and he did just fine on it.

There have been requests from left handers who wanted right sided grips, but I suppose Segway - with the cost of development etc. at least have to start with a 'one size fits all' environment. Hopefully things will change in time so that it's available to people who have trouble riding as it now comes.

Jill

Nothing is inexplicable, merely unexplained..... Dr. Who

[Kinky]

quote:Originally posted by herpos

Tak, I too have a mobility disability (muscular dystrophy)and having tried the Segway aboard the Disney Magic a few weeks ago, I am buying one as well. The only real concerns are 1. an ability to step up on the platform (but the central staff helps that and a cane can also help) and 2. an ability to stand somewhat erect rather than lean over and obviously 3.the distance of the glide will depend on standing stamina.
But in every case this is much better than any method for getting around (even for the normal folks)


Regarding your concerns:
1. Holding the center shaft for stability and could cause the Segway to roll forward/backward. If you have difficulty stepping up onto the Segway you can adopt my method. I use a small plastic step. I step up onto it (use my canes for support) and then step onto the Segway.
2. ability to stand erect; it is more comfortable to be relaxed, bent knees are a plus. I carry my step stool on my Segway by leaning it against the center shaft. It also helps to keep my canes from swinging as I'm gliding and I can lean against it if my legs are tired.
3. standing stamina; I think having something to lean against helps. At first you will feel it in your feet, legs and back but after a very short while you build endurance. It will help strengthen your muscles.

[RedKey]

quote:Originally posted by casterman

I called Segway about the retrofitting and.. I got a polite we are sorry but even at that price we do not support people with disabilities. I have to say i just tried a Segway it is definitely a revolutionary idea. However i feel very disappointed that they do not even pretend or try to help challenged people. That?s not revolutionary sound very old fashion to me. I did not use to have this problem on my left side a year ago. Now i can really experience what physical limitation are all about? Any way hopefully some other company more proactive an wiling to be integrated in our society might under some kind of license build more customizable solution.
Kemal


An odd work-around that I am certainly NOT recommending.....
You could install the handlebar backward (it does rotate). The turning grip would be on the right side. Of course the direction of the grips would be backward, they would face forward. This is a concern because they could get caught on something. Turning with your right hand could be accomplished, but you would need to turn the grip in the opposite direction. This seems nuts to try, but I've seen people try odder things. People adapt and this is the only way I can think of for someone without a left to ride. Hardest part would be adapting to the reverse steering, not that different than learning to back up a boat trailer
Again, this is not something I am recommending. Just food for thought.

[hubbahbubbah]

quote:Originally posted by RedKey

An odd work-around that I am certainly NOT recommending.....
You could install the handlebar backward (it does rotate). The turning grip would be on the right side. Of course the direction of the grips would be backward, they would face forward. This is a concern because they could get caught on something. Turning with your right hand could be accomplished, but you would need to turn the grip in the opposite direction. This seems nuts to try, but I've seen people try odder things. People adapt and this is the only way I can think of for someone without a left to ride. Hardest part would be adapting to the reverse steering, not that different than learning to back up a boat trailer
Again, this is not something I am recommending. Just food for thought.


That's really clever! Although, one should sue caution.

Casterman, I think Segway is afraid of the legal implications of helping you. If they modified it for a medical need, they would in fact be endorsing it as a medical device, which they are not allowed to do.

Much luck!

Hubbah

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[pt]

the ht is not and most likely never will be a medically approved device ever....so as hubbah said, you won't find segway offering up suggestions on how to modify the ht.

cheers,
pt




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other stuff:
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[Blinky]

Maybe one of our members (Wayne) can chime in on this topic. He has some experience in adding things to his Segway.




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[pam]

quote:Originally posted by casterman

I called Segway about the retrofitting and.. I got a polite we are sorry but even at that price we do not support people with disabilities. I have to say i just tried a Segway it is definitely a revolutionary idea. However i feel very disappointed that they do not even pretend or try to help challenged people. That’s not revolutionary sound very old fashion to me. I did not use to have this problem on my left side a year ago. Now i can really experience what physical limitation are all about? Any way hopefully some other company more proactive an wiling to be integrated in our society might under some kind of license build more customizable solution.
Kemal



Kemal, I'm sorry that they're unable to move the turn over to the right side. We may think they "should" be able to, but only they really know the innards of the thing and how it works. They're certainly NOT anti-disability - but, I think they are very cautious to say that this is not a device for disabled, because they'd get caught up in FDA problems as trying to market a device for the disabled that wasn't FDA approved.


Pam

[wayne]

Blinky,

I took a stab at a possible right side sterring tonight.
My hardware store friend and I did rig up a right side sterring tonight. Yes it did work, how dependable, well that would take a week or two testing. Even building the system will take a week or so making everything fit. And it would look homemade but if it would let someone steer from the right who cares, they could glide with the rest of us then.
I may fool with it in the next few weeks just to see if it will work good enough.


Seg_on
www.kcaps.com/segway.html

[Kinky]

quote:That's really clever! Although, one should sue caution.

Casterman, I think Segway is afraid of the legal implications of helping you. If they modified it for a medical need, they would in fact be endorsing it as a medical device, which they are not allowed to do.

Much luck!

Hubbah

Why would Segway be afraid of the legal implications when it is their product to revise/adapt as they choose. However, since it is a new product changes would most likely be considered for future models.

Modifying the Segway for a medical purpose or just for variety would not be considered an endorsement of any kind. Cars are modified with adaptive devices for disabled drivers.

I think you are confusing FDA approval which Segway did not seek. That is not to imply that it would not receive FDA approval in the future.


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[Balance]

I wonder if you could build something that used a servo to turn the left grip based on a signal received from a control of some sort on the right grip.

[Kinky]

quote:Originally posted by pt

the ht is not and most likely never will be a medically approved device ever....so as hubbah said, you won't find segway offering up suggestions on how to modify the ht.

cheers,
pt

If you have no real life experience in this area than I suggest that you not state comments as facts when they are nothing more than your uneducated guess.

It would be in the best interest for the able-bodied Seggers to work with the dis-abled in getting the Segway accepted. The way it's looking, Segway may end up being totally accepted only when used for mobility assistance.

Segway LLC is not anti-ADA or against persons with disabilities. If they ran this through for FDA approval none of us would be gliding any time soon - iBOT for example.

I called Segway today and spoke with Judy. I told her about the post and comments from Segway and that I couldn't believe someone would say that. She said she hoped no one from Segway intended to make such comments. I told her that it would help if Segway re-worded their statements about the Segway not being intended as a medical device. She asked that I send an email for her to pass on, which I did.




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segway ht journal:
http://www.bookofseg.com

other stuff:
http://www.flashenabled.com

[lipinsky]

quote:Originally posted by casterman

I called Segway about the retrofitting and.. I got a polite we are sorry but even at that price we do not support people with disabilities. I have to say i just tried a Segway it is definitely a revolutionary idea. However i feel very disappointed that they do not even pretend or try to help challenged people. That#8217;s not revolutionary sound very old fashion to me. I did not use to have this problem on my left side a year ago. Now i can really experience what physical limitation are all about? Any way hopefully some other company more proactive an wiling to be integrated in our society might under some kind of license build more customizable solution.
Kemal


Well next time you see a lawyer thank him/her. This really gets down to a torts issue. As an official medical device LLC would have to go through the FDA -- time=money. Half the cost of a Cessna aircraft are related to potential legal and liability costs. I wonder what it is for a Segway?

[AtlSeg]

quote:Originally posted by pt

the ht is not and most likely never will be a medically approved device ever....so as hubbah said, you won't find segway offering up suggestions on how to modify the ht.


Well, while Segway LLC says in their Terms and Conditions: quote: 3. Not a Medical Device. The Product has not been designed, tested, or approved as a medical device. The rider must be able to step on and off the Product, which requires physical abilities similar to climbing and descending stairs without assistance and without holding the handrail. Therider's weight must be at least 100 pounds and must not exceed 250 pounds. The rider must be able to operate the steering control with the left hand.
I don't think the statement that it "most likely won't be a medically approved device ever" can be little more than one opinion.... and certainly should be better phrased from one who styles himself a Segway expert. Just my opinion.

Dick (Richard) in Atlanta

[larryKay]

This all does not mean that you cannot modify the Segway to your needs. Degway can and will not do it. You are free to do your own modifications ala the way others do handicapped controls for autos.

Larry

[pam]

quote:Originally posted by AtlSeg
I don't think the statement that it "most likely won't be a medically approved device ever" can be little more than one opinion.... and certainly should be better phrased from one who styles himself a Segway expert. Just my opinion.

Dick (Richard) in Atlanta


I don't think I've ever seen pt style himself a Segway expert. I don't think I've ever read it anywhere on his pages. I do think he has a lot of experience with the Segway, loves it, and is willing to share his experience via his webpage. I also think that he might, just might, have had some interactions with Segway that led him to make this statement. I don't know, because I haven't been around with him during his Segway interactions. But I know from MY interactions with the company, that the one's I've talked to have indicated to me that they are definitely not interested in having the device go through the process for medical approval now.
Pam

[toybuilder]

Segway cannot sell the HT's as a medical device -- they have an agreement with Johnson and Johnson that J&J gets to use the dynamic stabilization technoology for all medical applications, and Dean Kamen gets all other applications.

http://www.pasadenasegway.com

The Segway is to a Moped like a Helicopter is to an Airplane.

[AtlSeg]

quote:Originally posted by pam

I don't think I've ever seen pt style himself a Segway expert. I don't think I've ever read it anywhere on his pages. I do think he has a lot of experience with the Segway, loves it, and is willing to share his experience via his webpage. I also think that he might, just might, have had some interactions with Segway that led him to make this statement. I don't know, because I haven't been around with him during his Segway interactions.

Pam, please don't misinterpret what I opined. I can only go on what I read here. Whether pt has "some interaction with Segway" other than the rest of us early adopters really seems unknown to me. My only concern is that while it is true pt has had his Segway longer than most of us, and seems to do a very credible job of chronicling his experiences and observations, one must always keep moderation in mind. If, indeed, pt has more insight/experience with Segway than is apparent, I would welcome that information to better help me evaluate his (or anyone else's) opinions expressed here. Until then, I can only use MY experience (which while perhaps not reaching the months/miles accumulated by pt, is nevertheless comprehensive and valid) to react to situations.

That being said, I am not criticizing pt for what he says, but am suggesting that careful consideration of delivery should be made.

Dick (Richard) in Atlanta

[pam]

So, where did you get the idea he styled himself as a Segway expert? I guess I'm confused. That was what I thought you said.
quote:
should be better phrased from one who styles himself a Segway expert


We can all use a little consideration in the delivery of our thoughts, I agree. (That's why you see so many edits on my posts <G>.)

And beyond, Johnson and Johnson does hold all the medical applications... at least according to the Ginger book. So, Segway can't and won't - and I think, given that piece of information, I think I can say, "won't ever", with some accuracy, although no authority <G>.
Pam

[AtlSeg]

quote:Originally posted by pam

So, where did you get the idea he styled himself as a Segway expert? I guess I'm confused. That was what I thought you said.
quote:
should be better phrased from one who styles himself a Segway expert


Sorry if I misled you, Pam. I guess my poor little brain just got overwhelmed by a plethora of "nevers" and "evers". I'll fall back into lockstep now. :)

Dick (Richard) in Atlanta

[pam]

Hey, Richard, a friend walked into my office today and saw my Segway sitting there and said she'd been up to Atlanta this weekend. She and a friend had gone to some sort of parade/celebration, and there were 3 Segways in the parade.. Were you there? Also some sort of little car made out of PVC pipe <G>.
Pam

[Kinky]

quote:Originally posted by AtlSeg

quote:Originally posted by pt

the ht is not and most likely never will be a medically approved device ever....so as hubbah said, you won't find segway offering up suggestions on how to modify the ht.


Well, while Segway LLC says in their Terms and Conditions: quote: 3. Not a Medical Device. The Product has not been designed, tested, or approved as a medical device. The rider must be able to step on and off the Product, which requires physical abilities similar to climbing and descending stairs without assistance and without holding the handrail. Therider's weight must be at least 100 pounds and must not exceed 250 pounds. The rider must be able to operate the steering control with the left hand.
I don't think the statement that it "most likely won't be a medically approved device ever" can be little more than one opinion.... and certainly should be better phrased from one who styles himself a Segway expert. Just my opinion.

Dick (Richard) in Atlanta


I agree with you Richard and YES Pam, pt does come off as Segway cop and expert. Everyone's experience with the Segway is beneficial to this site and because one person may have had his longer than others, does not make his experience more unique. We are all coming from different backgrounds, abilities and needs.

[toybuilder]

quote:Originally posted by toybuilder

Segway cannot sell the HT's as a medical device -- they have an agreement with Johnson and Johnson that J&J gets to use the dynamic stabilization technoology for all medical applications, and Dean Kamen gets all other applications.

BTW, I should point out that I got this information from the excerpt of Kemper's book that's been posted on the forum (http://www.segwaychat.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3033):
quote:Instead of asking for his usual hefty royalty, Dean offered Johnson & Johnson a different deal. He figured it would cost tens of millions more to get the [self-balancing wheelchair] to market. If Johnson & Johnson would put up the money, Dean would accept a smaller royalty. All he wanted in return were the rights to all nonmedical applications.
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Sometime before Dean showed Fred to Johnson & Johnson, Kurt Heinzmann, who had excellent balance and was crazy, had started entertaining himself by standing on Rev 0’s small platform and using the joystick to surf around the lab. For a while no one, including Dean, re-alized the implications of this larky feat. But then they did, and Dean’s imagination leapt at the possibilities. That’s why he had insisted on retaining the rights to all nonmedical applications of the technology.


http://www.pasadenasegway.com

The Segway is to a Moped like a Helicopter is to an Airplane.

[pam]

quote:Originally posted by Kinky

I agree with you Richard and YES Pam, pt does come off as Segway cop and expert. Everyone's experience with the Segway is beneficial to this site and because one person may have had his longer than others, does not make his experience more unique. We are all coming from different backgrounds, abilities and needs.


Kinky, this is because of your particular personality - methinks you don't like anything or anyone who tells you of limitations to what you think you want to do. (At least that has been your written position on the board.) Probably has been a good thing in learning to live with whatever disability you have.
But again, this is your opinion. You're entitled to your opinion.

There are certain things that do make his experience more unique, but he's not going to brag about them, and I'm not going to mention anything he's chosen not to mention.

Beyond that, these boards are here for people to take what they feel is good for them, and they can ignore the rest. Better to ignore than get your guts all churned up about something, in my book.(Not saying yours are all churned up, mind you.)
Pam

[Kinky]

quote:Originally posted by pam

quote:Originally posted by Kinky

I agree with you Richard and YES Pam, pt does come off as Segway cop and expert. Everyone's experience with the Segway is beneficial to this site and because one person may have had his longer than others, does not make his experience more unique. We are all coming from different backgrounds, abilities and needs.


Kinky, this is because of your particular personality - methinks you don't like anything or anyone who tells you of limitations to what you think you want to do. (At least that has been your written position on the board.) Probably has been a good thing in learning to live with whatever disability you have.
But again, this is your opinion. You're entitled to your opinion.

There are certain things that do make his experience more unique, but he's not going to brag about them, and I'm not going to mention anything he's chosen not to mention.

Beyond that, these boards are here for people to take what they feel is good for them, and they can ignore the rest. Better to ignore than get your guts all churned up about something, in my book.(Not saying yours are all churned up, mind you.)
Pam


Methinks we need two boards; one for the moderators and another one for everyone else. I have noticed how critical y'all get toward me when I point out your one-sided opionions. I am entitled to my opinion also and from what I've read I am not alone. If your feelings are so tender than don't read my replies.

[AtlSeg]

quote:Originally posted by pam

Hey, Richard, a friend walked into my office today and saw my Segway sitting there and said she'd been up to Atlanta this weekend. She and a friend had gone to some sort of parade/celebration, and there were 3 Segways in the parade.. Were you there? Also some sort of little car made out of PVC pipe <G>.
Pam
Pam, it wasn't me--I was out of town! I still haven't run into any other "consumer" Segways in Atlanta--but many people have seen the E models being used around Underground Atlanta by the Atlanta Ambassadors, as well as the ones being used at the Atlanta airport by the police there.

Would love to hook up with any other Atlanta Seggers....

Dick (Richard) in Atlanta

[GadgetmanKen]

Casterman, according to Lipinsky's post
http://www.segwaychat.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3061

Segway originally had the turn control on the right side. I haven't seen these pics before, for all I know they could be mirror copies of some originals Segway let out early on, or they could have been on the right. Don't know, but could be possible and does make sense to switch it because of people thinking its a throttle... But for a Lefty it almost would be a necessity. Wouldn't you think?

For Segway to get around the FDA approval side helping you as an amputee (in your case) all they would need to do is make it an option, back on the right side for the sake of Left handed people. It would also fit your situation by doing this. No FDA approval at all needed to retrofit say for a Left handed person. They supposedly had it on the right at one time, so I really dont think they would have went and re-engineered the handlegrips to switch it to the other side and change back to something else. As far as I can tell they assemble the same way on both sides except for the steering part, but look the same. It would be to cost prohibitive from a manufacturing standpoint I think to change it back on forth. Also according to Segway's website in the assembly pdf files it shows how easily the handle grips come off. I believe I saw somewhere, on someones dis-assembly pics that both sides of the handlebars has the slots down the center. I could be wrong.

With switching the handle grips to the other side the only thing I think that needs to be addressed is what determines when the grip is twisted. Assumedly, at the base of the handlebars with the grips removed on the left side there is a sensor or contact switches that determines this. All one would have to do is figure out how to switch the wiring of it and place it on the other side of the handlebars. This would mean taking the handlebar assembly apart. Which someone has suggested, is not a good idea. I'm assuming because it may be real difficult to align everything up inside before closing the unit up. Perhaps tapeing up everything up inside before assembly, would work. I don't know untill I would be able to see the guts. Then at that point, if switching them is a go, then you would most likely need to reverse the wiring at the switch or sensor for the proper directional twists needed.

Another need of yours might be perhaps a stabilizing device to help you keep your balance some how. I'm thinking a short horizontal pole with a large belly pad attached to the Segway control shaft to lean against, and if needed a wide belt with velcro or somesort of breakaway set of snaps to help with leaning an turnig attached to the pad. So in case of an emergency you could forcefully dissable yourself by excess inertia. Following me? Something to help you stay stable while turning because, when turning your right hand would be less as secure and your holding on grip would be minimized. So you need some left side stability, right?. Perhaps a long 2 piece belt with velcro strips in the middle attached to the base on the left side near the wheels and the other end connected to a clip on your belt. I don't know just theorizing on what things could be tried. This would have to be something someone else would have to design because this would fall under the FDA thing Segway is staying clear of at this time.

"Wouldn't it be cool, if?...is like Folgers in my cup"

[billc]

Hi I am also intereted in it's use for people with limited mobility and have received "cool" responses from Segway (due to the issues already mentioned).
This will be a "boon" for anyone with mobility issues (everything from angina to amputation - assuming that their balance and reaction responses are OK!



Bill Contoyannis
Manager / Rehabilitation Engineer, REHAB Tech
Centre for Biomedical Engineering - Monash University

[jillmac]

Bill C - even the balance issue isn't such a big one with the Segway. While I am walking around my balance is not brilliant, especially as I get tired. Yesterday I stumbled several times while working at the mission but as soon as I got on my Segway I was just fine.

I also find a lot of things trigger true vertigo (not just dizziness) for me, but as yet, I have not had this happen while on the Seg. I do have to be careful showing people how it turns in place - one turn in one direction is my limit :)

Linda at this forum (Lazarus) has been surprised that she has had a very similar experience. On two feet she is unsteady and gets dizzy. On the Seg this doesn't happen.

Jill

Nothing is inexplicable, merely unexplained..... Dr. Who

[Kinky]

quote:Originally posted by jillmac

Bill C - even the balance issue isn't such a big one with the Segway. While I am walking around my balance is not brilliant, especially as I get tired. Yesterday I stumbled several times while working at the mission but as soon as I got on my Segway I was just fine.

I also find a lot of things trigger true vertigo (not just dizziness) for me, but as yet, I have not had this happen while on the Seg. I do have to be careful showing people how it turns in place - one turn in one direction is my limit :)

Linda at this forum (Lazarus) has been surprised that she has had a very similar experience. On two feet she is unsteady and gets dizzy. On the Seg this doesn't happen.

Jill

Nothing is inexplicable, merely unexplained..... Dr. Who


I also find that it is easier to balance on the Segway than with my canes. I also don't get as tired and my back, legs and arms don't hurt like they do when I use a wheelchair or canes.
Anne