View Full Version : How to catch air on a segway
Mr_Laurenzano
02-01-2004, 08:29 PM
I have been recently tring to perfect the jump on a segway. I have found that once the segway leaves to ground it is imparitive that a level of acuracy of "continuious trajectory" is achived while in the air.
I have acomplished a 1/4 turn in flight.
If the segway is allowed to shift in any direction that is outside the orriginal launch parameter you are what I call "road pizza"
If you try to do this,(I do not in any way suggest it) the shorter and slower you land the better off you will be.
Zorba - 9 inches at 12mph
- 12 inches at 7mph
- hitting the skate park when I see those wheels
This is one tough little bugger.
Go pat's
peace is a oneway street, with no crossroads and no deadends
could i take out a policy on you? i'd like to make some $ when you eat it ;-]
cheers,
pt
Mr_Laurenzano
02-01-2004, 10:11 PM
I already have my own policy and I have already eaten it. How have you been? I saw your day in the life picture review. Wow. Buy the way whats whit all the fish stuff?
peace is a oneway street, with no crossroads and no deadends
SegwayBill
02-01-2004, 10:28 PM
Tony
Hope you wearing a helmet with full padding while doing this in a safe location. For me I always keep both wheels on the ground my insurance premimums are already too high.
Bill
dhugger
02-01-2004, 10:38 PM
MrL, ever try stairs? Or riding up small curbs?
-Derek Hugger-
Ground Loop
02-02-2004, 12:00 AM
Go Mr. L! I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one tearing it up on the hairy edge, willing to take a mouthful of dirt in the course of good fun. :)
Of course, just like anyone on a mountain bike, always wear goggles, helmet, full boots, leathers, neck brace, knee pads, jock strap, boxing gloves, floaties, and mouth guard.
statmed
02-02-2004, 12:16 AM
Can we see some video of this. It should be fun! (For us that is)
H.M. Stern
statmed@optonline.net
I Love It When A Plan Comes Together (Hannibal Smith)
Poindexter
02-02-2004, 11:33 PM
quote:Originally posted by Mr Laurenzano
that a level of acuracy of "continuious trajectory" is achived while in the air.
Does that mean that you keep the platform horizontal to your plane of travel? By "shorter add slower" does that mean you angle the platform to a degree aft to slow the rotation of the wheel? How do you affect wheel speed to slow your landing if not?
How are you launching?
I assume you keep a low stance and lean out on jumped turns. What above the control shaft? I would think that having it real low would fit a low stance. Are you pulling up on the CS to jump or twisting to turn in air?
I guess you've learned to bail or take the hit if it shuts down after a landing when it over compensates for imbalance in the air.
I say take the CS off and mount a sideways stance platform and you would begin to see the type of motorized, self balancing, off-road and skate park athletic devices Kamen and his company could come up with. It would be hard for them to make the transition from a transportation device to a motorized athletic/recreational device.
To see my discussion on a motorized mountainboard (utilizing the control sytems simliar the the Segway "mind-body interface" see [u]http to follow</u>. I'm DaddyYo. You may have to wade through a bunch of flaming to get there but I think I have the design problems identified.
quote: - hitting the skate park when I see those wheels
What wheels? Have you ever heard a reference to a "skate park" board being tested during mid Segway R&D?
quote:This is one tough little bugger.
How tough? Are you slamming the control shaft fore and aft? Has it rolled yet?
To really test it out I'd suggest the padding that mountainboarders wear. See the butt pads at [u]www.hillbillydirtgear.com</u>, wrist, knee and elbow guards by Harbinger and any standard skate park helment.
I'm not your Mom so I won't tell you what to do besides suggest you be thoughful of others. It's your machine though. On your property or with permission I hope you are able to see what it will do.
I know you are having fun. I wish I were there.
"Anyone who wants to be a New Urbanist has never been Old Urbanist." Michael Poindexter (critic)
Ground Loop
02-02-2004, 11:58 PM
One thing I'd like to try is remapping the steering mechanism for more agressive off-road riding. Having a twist-control for steering is really iffy when the shaft is flailing side-to-side. It's easy to grab a lot of rotation without intending to.
A better control would be a hand-held wired 'pickle' you could use to steer the Segway. There's no reason it has to be a vertical handlebar except to push-back for the speed limiting.
In fact, you could lose the shaft altogether and 'strap in' your boots. Use the hand-controller to steer and maybe 'boost' the lean fore/aft a bit. Think of the Segway Robotics platform with a rider on it. :)
This would certainly take a lot more work/agility on the part of the rider, and reduce the 'mind-reading' experience in exchange for some increased freedom of posture and stance. Riding slow and level would be the same as riding hands-free.
In fact, since the steering input is entirely magnetic, it would be trivial to set up a no-splice interface to control it from something like a "cassette adapter" audio interface! You could induce the right magnetic force into the grip without any movement or wire connections at all. I've tried using a neodymium magnet to 'steer' without twisting, and it works just fine.
SegwayBill
02-03-2004, 12:03 AM
http://7pounds.net/users/extreme_segway/gallery.htm
Got this 2 weeks ago thought now would be a good time.
Notice the full body padding very important.
Looks like a Skate Park, private property GOOD:D
No walkman either!
They are good ambassadors !
It is human to want to push the envelope.
With proper safety it can be quite fun!
Safety First
;)
Bill
Poindexter
02-03-2004, 12:07 AM
Have you seen the controler for this?
[u]www.exkate.com</u>
I've talked to mountainboarders that liked it on that motorized londboard.
Here is a mountainboard in case you don't know [u]www.mbs.com</u>
"Anyone who wants to be a New Urbanist has never been Old Urbanist." Michael Poindexter (critic)
ZoliHonig
02-03-2004, 11:06 PM
They call that a segway on steroids on ebay. It's so funny this forum came up, because the first time I rode a seg, I thought they should make it an exteme sport, with half pipes and everything. That would be cool.
By the way this is post #50 for me. Mazal Tov!
A I still a starting member? I guess I'll see in a few seconds.
[8]-Zoli[8]
ZoliHonig
02-03-2004, 11:07 PM
Mazal tov its a new member!
[8]-Zoli[8]
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