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TiVoAussie
11-08-2003, 07:49 PM
Hi Folks

Well, it's here, many thanks to Ben Bethel, a true gentleman. We spent 3 hours with him at the Sydney Airport Hilton assembling and demo'ing the Segway and I feel we gained a good friend!

As some of you know, it was purchased mainly for my wife, Clair, who like a number here has a very slight mobility problem, and we had some concerns if it would "work" for her. Well, we needn't have worried! It took only a few attempts and a little practice before she could mount, ride, and dismount with ease.

A tip for others: although she wanted to try standing on it first off unassisted, it made it a lot easier when I held it rigidly so she could mount and get the feel for how to balance and control the "bucking". Once she had learnt how to bring it into balance she was able to do it easily as she mounted and from then on there were no problems!

First impressions:

Before even riding, it was obvious that the Segway was well engineered, I had read a comment somewhere that it had the feel of a top quality power tool and I couldn't agree more! Strangely, compared with other "first comments" I've read, it didn't seem as big as we expected.

On riding: Had the first ride in the hotel room, probably not the best place! I had sworn to myself I wouldn't let it buck, but I did, darn it! But not for long! After a little messing about in the room (we'd already watched the safety video in advance) we went down to the carpark for a "real" glide.

It sure does attract attention! Ben rode it expertly through the lobby (no hands, and with arms outstretched, looking strangely like Christ walking on water!) and into the carpark, where a series of high speed slalom turns astonished a busload of Japanese tourists, and elicited what I now know are the standard questions... What is it? How much? How far/fast?

My go next! Black key... Fun! Fun! A few laps around the carpark, demoing stick push back and reverse vibrate and I'm riding (I think) like a pro, although watching the video footage later reveals that I'm not looking as expert as I feel! This is huge fun! The power is surprising, I'm amazed to feel it hold me rock steady half way up a speed bump.

Clair doesn't feel ready to try it in public yet so Ben lets me try the red key, there's plenty of space and it seems safe. First thing I notice is the turning is really twitchy compared to the black, I might need to get the gear to burn some custom keys with a slower rate.

Anyway, the speed surprises me, I'm not sure I'd want to go faster, even with the Seg's redundant systems, in a fall you could seriously hurt yourself. After riding around for a while, and having a ball, Ben took it for a farewell ride, then it's time to pack up, drop Ben at the airport and return to Canberra. Oops, it doesn't fit in the Audi's boot (trunk to you guys:)). Never mind, fits on the rear seat so we're off!

Back in Canberra, Clair has her first ride in the back yard, and in no time is doing great, after an hour she's ready to go public (there's only so much fun you can have in a backyard!) and she heads off along the sidewalk outside our house. Every car that passes does a double take, one even goes around the block and returns for a second look!

When we finally call it a day her comment is "That was the most fun I ever had in my life!" I think we can call it a success!

Gripes: Very few and minor... The charging LED's could have used multi-coloured LED's at very little extra cost, feedback by blink rate is an engineer's solution, better would have been say, white during the 2 minute initial pulsing, red during the main charge phase, amber during the cell balancing and green on completion. Should also have been above, not below the charging socket. Minor issue, once you've seen it cycle through the varios phases once it's not a problem, but first time we tended to think "is that a slow blink or a rapid blink?"

I would have liked to see the control shaft etched with "person height" settings, like 5'0" 5'2" 5'4" etc, it'd make it easier to get the initial setting roughly correct.

The 16mm deep socket required for wheel removal should have been supplied, in quantity they'd only cost a buck or so, and they're not the easiest thing to find, not in Canberra anyway!

The instruction video should have been on DVD, seriously, can there be anybody who owns a Segway but not a DVD player?

These "gripes" are pathetically trivial, but I felt like I was gushing too much praise :)

In conclusion, a great machine, a credit to DK, and all those who worked on it!

At last I can add the "Segway owner" icon to my posts!

I could write more, but it's a sunny, late spring morning in beautiful Canberra... Guess what we're going to do!

Cheers

Ron




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pam
11-08-2003, 08:00 PM
Welcome to the land of HT owners, TiVoAussie. And may you have many more wonderful occasions on it.
Pam

ronzul
11-08-2003, 09:19 PM
Hello Ron

Glad to hear that it all went well... and I'm really happy that your wife finds it suitable and even felt like going out in public so quickly!

I've had a brief glimpse of the feeling that unrestricted Segway mobility can bring to someone with mobility limitations, and I'm really looking forward to get my own.

Question... any initial thoughts about p series versus i series? (From your wife's point of view, obviously without having tried a p)

Cheers
Ronny

TiVoAussie
11-08-2003, 09:38 PM
Hi Ronny

Everything I've read indicates that the p series would not be for us, there appears (from a post today) to be a bigger need to lean into
turns, which might be problemmatical. Also, we want as much varied terrain capability as possible, the i also seems to have the upper hand here. As much range as possible is another plus.

The only advantage might have been the reduced platform height, but as it turns out this was not a problem.

Now I need to get another i series :) I had to buy a mountain bike yesterday to keep up! Haven't ridden a bike for 20 years, even that was fun!

Cheers

Ron

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stuart
11-08-2003, 11:08 PM
Congrats Ron! The Segway is an amazing piece of engineering. Now you're part of a very small group of people (especially in Australia!) who own these incredibly fun machines.

Safe gliding to you and your wife,
Stuart

StephenJ
11-09-2003, 12:37 AM
Ron
Thanks for the report. Glad to hear your wife took to it quickly.
If all goes well we should have our p series in Canberra in a couple of weeks. Ready for a race across the lake?
Stephen

dgbint
11-09-2003, 03:08 AM
Hi Ron

I am delighted to read about your positive experiences.
When Stephen has his too, maybe I'll come up to Canberra and we have have a 3 Seg glide.

I wouldn't tweak with the steering.
Spend at least an hour on Black ( you sound like you have already ), then an hour on yellow, then you can go to red and throw the others away.
( Seriously though, keep the others for doing demo's )

Michael

ronzul
11-09-2003, 03:24 AM
Hi Stephen,

That's great that you have managed to organise the purchase and transport. I still haven't got any definite answers about delivery times from the reseller in New York that I was planning to buy from.

Any tips about how you have organised this? given an approximate delivery time of a week, does this mean your supplier in the States reckons they will have product in about a week? cool

Ronny from Sydney

StephenJ
11-09-2003, 03:54 AM
Ronny
We got a relative in Texas to purchase one from Segway of Texas - delivery in Houston is expected in a week. We are using the agents dgbint recommended to pick it up in Houston and get it through customs here - send me an email if you need details.
Stephen

billc
11-11-2003, 12:55 AM
Well Ron,


thought I'ld better post...can't be left out.

Well done ...have fun and well at least one of the gripes is solved...we converted the video to DVD so if you (or anyone) need a copy...let me ....or dgbint know.

Bye for now





Bill Contoyannis
Manager / Rehabilitation Engineer, REHAB Tech
Centre for Biomedical Engineering - Monash University

TiVoAussie
11-11-2003, 01:32 AM
Yes, I've got it on DVD too, and I've got a burner so I can knock out more if anybody needs them too. My gripe is that they should have supplied it on DVD!

Cheers

Ron

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BenBethel
11-13-2003, 02:36 AM
I can vouch for Ron and Claire - they did very well and their new Segway will hopefully last them a very long time indeed. It was a bit of a hassle and a lot of work to bring it with me... but I really lucked out. I kept guessing the whole journey - will I be charged for excess baggage and excess weight? I wasn't, on three flights on two airlines, even though they reminded me I should have been! Will it get lost during a 14 hour layover in Seoul? It wasn't. Will I be charged duty on bringing it into Sydney? I wasn't. Would it get damaged? It wasn't, except for a minor plastic piece that was just cosmetic. Would it work once assembled? Dooo-doo-dah-doo-doo. Thankfully, it worked like a charm. Would Ron and Claire be happy with it? Yes.... and seeing Claire stepped on to it really made me feel that the whole process was totally worth it. I made a follow up call and heard that she had the time of her life on it and is truly mobile now, which made me feel happy. What a wonderful world this is!

The final question: will I miss it? Heck yes! I do already! Perhaps I can bum a ride from a local Sydney owner while I'm here - I leave on Monday. Or perhaps I'll buy two p-series one day - not now, but one day.

It really is the greatest invention ever. Don't let anyone deny it.

Cheers to Ron and Claire! They're such a wonderful couple, and they're cool. Just don't let them think you're anti-smoking. <grin>

Ben

www.benbethel.com

ronzul
11-13-2003, 08:22 AM
Hi Ben,

Glad to hear that it all worked out.

You are more than welcome to "bum a ride" on my Segway, but you might need a little patience... my current estimate would be mid December till I get it.

If you are back this way, let us know.

Ronny

PS: I might be going over to Canberra for a visit, and might see your old friend. I'll make sure Ron and Claire are looking after him!

dgbint
11-13-2003, 06:13 PM
Hi Ben

If you come to Melbourne, you can 'bum' a ride on my HT.

If there are any other interested parties, I will be do 2 demo's in the next few weeks. One in Ararat, VIC and the other at Deakin Uni in Melbourne.
Contact me for details.

Michael