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NotYetAnOwner
11-06-2003, 05:34 PM
Which series would you choose if you didn't yet have a Seg -- the i or p? And why? I'm especially interested in seeing the opinions of those who've tried both models.

Thanks,

Matt
(Not Yet An Owner)




ElectraGlide
11-06-2003, 05:48 PM
I've owned both...had an "i" for 5 months, sold it ....and have been driving a "p" for over 2 months ever since selling the "i". I really like the "p" much better. It's smaller , lower, narrower so it fits in more places. It's a LOT easier to pick up and place it in the back of the car, and I mean a LOT EASIER ! Easier to drive it thru doors , elevators, and goes unoticed more than the big "i" series. If you need a big hill climber or off road machine get the "i" , but if you are using sidewalks, bike paths,indoors, or streets get the sporty "p"! And a funny thing , my "i" never got the range that my "p" model gets. What else can I say.........I LOVE it .

Steve

dhugger
11-06-2003, 05:51 PM
i: it can go farther, faster, and over rougher terrain. and i think it looks cooler than the p. it's a bit bigger, but i dont mind.

-Derek Hugger-

statmed
11-06-2003, 05:55 PM
The I series.

Bigger is sometimes better, it goes further, goes faster, etc....

H.M. Stern
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BruceWright
11-06-2003, 06:11 PM
Why choose?


GET BOTH!


I wish I had both!

-Bruce Wright

Segway: Vehicle of Dream

Sal
11-06-2003, 07:21 PM
Bruce hit the nail on the head!

Both!

-Sal

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Sleepy
11-06-2003, 07:45 PM
Matt,
I think it's really a personal choice, and very specific to how/where you're going to ride it.
I personally like the size of the p, and don't mind the limited terrain. But I'm sticking with my i because I need the extra range to commute to work.

I think in general, the p is more practical. But the i is more fun.
I own an i and have been on a p several times. The i is definitely more responsive. But some people don't like that.

-Alex

RobbW
11-06-2003, 08:17 PM
The "I"'s have it...at least in my case. My commute to work is about 5-6 miles each way over varying slopes. I need the extra battery "oomph" of the "I", especially because I have a pretty good size hill to climb for the last mile of my return trip. I know the mileage specs claim either model can handle that journey but there have been times that I have b a r e l y made it home (especially if my two hundred pound frame hits a good head wind) so I know that the "P" is not a realistic option in my world right now.

It's a shame really, because I could totally see using the "P" if it had the same specs so far as range and speed because the size and weight of the "P" are VERY attractive to me. I have two cars...one is a two seater roadster and you can bet my Segway doesn't fit into that and the other is a new Honda Accord sedan. Surprisingly, while it was a breeze to fit the "I" into our 1999 Accord, it is a pain in the butt to work it into our 2003 Accord because the nav system CD changer is installed in the ceiling of the trunk and hangs down far enough to make it really tough to fit the Segway now unless you place it "just so".

Speed is the other consideration...If the fuel tank wasn't an issue, I wonder if I would notice the speed difference or not? I guess I would open that one up to the group? can you really feel the difference between 10 and 12.5? (Especially when the "P" is smaller than the "I"...I would speculate that the smaller size probably gives you the illusion of a faster ride??)

Arguably, if these ever rumored higher capacity batteries surfaced, I could potentially make a case to change over. Right now though, put my vote into the "I" column.

My Segway purchase is one I have been extremely happy with. My best advice is simply the most obvious...you really need to figure out what your expectations/needs are and then make your choice based on those criteria. You won't be disappointed either way. (And if you are...there's always Ebay...) ;)

RobbW

pam
11-06-2003, 08:19 PM
I have both. IMHO, the one you get should be dependent on the kind of gliding you anticipate doing. If you anticipate any off-road gliding, get an i. If you're going to basically be on sidewalks, and those sidewalks might at some point be crowded, I'd say a 'p' was a better choice for you. The 'p' is smaller, has less range, less speed, but feels more like an extension of my own body. The 'i' is bigger, has more range and more speed.
Pam

apollo
11-06-2003, 08:22 PM
quote:Originally posted by BruceWright

Why choose?

GET BOTH!

Well, if I had $8,500 then I would. But as it is, I'll be hard pressed to scrape together about $3,000 to get a used one (i or p) by next fall when I go off to some sprawling college campus. If i can't pull the cash in by then, then its huffing and puffing on a bike for several miles a day for me. [/:(]
(LLC really should offer some discounts for college students.)

Stewbonz
11-06-2003, 08:37 PM
If you plan on taking the Segway with you in a car, the the P series is much easier to load.
I was in a taxi the other day on a way to a meeting. Traffic was gridlocked. I got out and took the Segway out of the trunk and Segged the last mile.

JEFF JARVIS
Historic Tours of Thailand on a Segway-HT

Neelix
11-06-2003, 08:56 PM
It really depends on the person. If you're 6'3" with a weight to match, the P is not for you. I think I can sum it up like this:

I series - Big Boy Size. Goes faster, father, and over a variety of terrain.
P series - Regular People Sized. Great if you're on mostly pavement, don't have to go too far, or are looking for just a fun little machine to cruise around on.

My choice? I series.

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ElectraGlide
11-06-2003, 09:49 PM
quote:Originally posted by Stewbonz


I was in a taxi the other day on a way to a meeting. Traffic was gridlocked. I got out and took the Segway out of the trunk and Segged the last mile.

Hehehe....thats the way to make the meter stop !!

Steve

pam
11-07-2003, 09:24 AM
quote:Originally posted by apollo

quote:Originally posted by BruceWright

Why choose?

GET BOTH!

Well, if I had $8,500 then I would. But as it is, I'll be hard pressed to scrape together about $3,000 to get a used one (i or p) by next fall when I go off to some sprawling college campus. If i can't pull the cash in by then, then its huffing and puffing on a bike for several miles a day for me. [/:(]
(LLC really should offer some discounts for college students.)


I think they do have a program with a college in the Northeast. I'm having a mental block on the name right now. Where are you going to school?
Pam

Nintendo Guru
11-07-2003, 12:08 PM
I'm planning on getting an i when I can afford it. Goes faster, lasts longer, more versatile.

--
Segway is the answer!

Mr_Laurenzano
11-07-2003, 04:52 PM
I-series - Great for all things p- has limitations in comparison. I live in a beach comunity and when the tide is high or low the I has it handled. ts up to you If your going to school get the I. It will make those weekend excursions much more enjoyable.

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fireballfive
11-08-2003, 10:11 PM
I would like a 15 mi. range at 15 mph. It would be perfect. It's not available.
If you need the best range, get an I, If not, go with a P

Fireball Five

ElectraGlide
11-08-2003, 10:27 PM
quote:Originally posted by fireballfive

I would like a 15 mi. range at 15 mph. It would be perfect. It's not available.
It is available.......at Segfest there was the "orange monster" , a beautifully modified "i" series with extra large wheels. With the extra diameter of the wheels the machine will travel faster and a greater distance. I believe the cost of conversion is under 2k.

Steve

glide123
11-09-2003, 12:22 AM
Today I went to the Segway manufacturing plant in Bedford, NH for a charity event and was able to ride both the p and the i series for a total of about 2 hours. I have ridden an i series twice before, so there was no real big surprises there (yet still an incredible experience). The first thing that strikes you about the p series is how much smaller it is. Riding the p inside, on the yellow key, the differences between the two machines feel pretty slight. The p feels just a bit smoother on concrete, but otherwise they are almost identical. After we went outside, though, some differences became apparent. First off, the p series doesn't seem to have as much pick up, giving a more gentle acceleration than the i (I imagine it’s a combination of the smaller wheel diameter and the smaller battery packs). Secondly, when you are turning, it feels more necessary to lean into the turn than on the i series, probably because it's narrower. Also, when going up hills, you can really feel the difference in torque ratios between the two. Generally, though, I think these differences are pretty unnoticeable in everyday use. The p is still most certainly a fine piece of machinery.

It was really cool being able to go and see where the Segway is made. We saw the assembly line and the series of prototypes that led up to the final version. It gives a new appreciation for the complexity and the time that was put into these machines. I can't wait to ride one again. In fact, I may just have to buy one.

apollo
11-09-2003, 01:28 AM
quote:Originally posted by pam
I think they do have a program with a college in the Northeast. I'm having a mental block on the name right now. Where are you going to school?
Pam

I won't know that until around January at the earliest. Hopefully Stanford (which doesn't allow freshmen to have cars even though it is the 2nd largest campus in the world with over 8800 acres of land) but possibly Georgia Tech or UAH (univ. of Ala. Huntsville) and I'm also applying to MIT. So, We'll see where I go. I'll need the segway the most at Stanford or Ga Tech. Parking at Ga tech is impossible for freshmen and most sophmores. And, when you are allowed to buy a parking permit, it costs about $400. I know an i Series would be perfect for Ga Tech and I could go with either model if I go to Stanford, but at Stanford I would be visiting San Francisco frequently which would clearly necessitate an i series. So, as you can see, for me personally it really is quite a dilemma. A dilemma that will only be solved when #1)I know where I will be going to college and #2)when I have the cash saved up to buy a segway.

also, if anyone wants to refer me to LLC's university page [http://www.segway.com/university/], don't bother. I've read that about 3 times and I don't see any mention of a discount. When i know where I'm going to college, I will send them an e-mail just to get more info. I don't know, maybe if they see a kid going ot Stanford or MIT they will recognise my hard work and intelligence and decide to significantly discount one or just let me have one for an extended 4 year "case study". :D

pam
11-09-2003, 09:08 AM
Their university study does encompass a discount, even if not mentioned on the page. But I think your idea is an excellent one. <G>
Pam

fathertime
11-09-2003, 11:34 AM
There is an IPRO Segway program at IIT (with a reduced rate buy-in) and they have and excellent campus for segging.:D

JR

pam
11-09-2003, 09:44 PM
Thanks, Fathertime. I just couldn't remember the school name. <sigh>
Pam