Seater HT

[wderooy]

If a bycicle-type saddle was placed properly in relation to the handlebars would that not give a three-points support to the rider
who would still be able to move the center of gravity fore-and-aft?

To illustrade I've made a scetch:
http://www.segwaychat.com/photos/segwaychatadmin/Segway%20Seat.jpg

[greenbean]

there were some patent diagrams that illustrate this very principle...

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/segway3.shtml

-=torin

[Eddie]

Hmmm... I'm not sure how well I like the idea of a seat. If the unfortunate event of a rider having to jump off became a reality it would be more difficult to do with the seat there. Add to that the feet might not be positioned properly for a quick hop off to the rear. Granted it would probably be a rare circumstance but I think standing provides a better exit strategy.

Enjoy the ride,
Ed

[wderooy]

Eventually, with the help of the Stirling engine, the range
of Segway maybe extended and for longer trips I would prefer
to be seated.

[pt]

i wouldn't have got a segway ht if it was a seated vehicle. the standing platform has more benifits and is safe (my opinion).

cheers,
pt

quote:Originally posted by Walter deRooy

If a bycicle-type saddle was placed properly in relation to the handlebars would that not give a three-points support to the rider
who would still be able to move the center of gravity fore-and-aft?

To illustrade I've made a scetch:
http://www.segwaychat.com/photos/segwaychatadmin/Segway%20Seat.jpg


http://www.bookofseg.com

[JohnM]

quote:Originally posted by pt

i wouldn't have got a segway ht if it was a seated vehicle. the standing platform has more benifits and is safe (my opinion).


Benefits?
Easier to mount/dismount.
More flexibility for leaning into turns.

Am I on the right track, pt?

Runnin' with the Big Dogs

[GlideMaster]

Plus guys, believe me when you need to get off quick for what ever reason even to prevent a fall you definitely don't want a seat in your way. No seat allows you to just step off in an emergency. Enjoy The Glide

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quote:Originally posted by JohnM

quote:Originally posted by pt

i wouldn't have got a segway ht if it was a seated vehicle. the standing platform has more benifits and is safe (my opinion).


Benefits?
Easier to mount/dismount.
More flexibility for leaning into turns.

Am I on the right track, pt?

Runnin' with the Big Dogs

[drucilla]

doesn't the segway go forward with the intention to walk? If you are seated, is this possible. I have never tried to walk while seated and think it would be very difficult.

mind if my segway and i pass?

[GlideMaster]

Drucilla I would have to agree with your logic on that point. it seems that many people keep trying to change the way the Seg is designed. If they are not satisfied with it they should try and invent their own. Enjoy The Glide

<center>Ahhh The World of Seg, and a good world it is.

Have Seg Will Travel

REMEMBER:
Responsible Riders Ride Segway
and
Segway Riders Ride Responsibly

Segway, The Mind Changer</center>

quote:Originally posted by drucilla

doesn't the segway go forward with the intention to walk? If you are seated, is this possible. I have never tried to walk while seated and think it would be very difficult.

mind if my segway and i pass?

[Blinky]

drucilla writes,
quote:doesn't the segway go forward with the intention to walk? If you are seated, is this possible. I have never tried to walk while seated and think it would be very difficult.
Well, the Segway moves forward when you lean forward. The same procedure when you want to go backwards. The movement is probably very slight and it probably does not take very much effort to accomplish this at all. Especially using the 'red' key(segway more responsive)

It would probably be very difficult if you tried to walk while seated. This is unless someone could share a nice link to prove my assumption wrong.

The way the Segway is operated is somewhat different from the same concept of walking. We shouldn't let those Walking V Segway comparisons get in the way of how the machine is actually used. Sitting while riding a Segway-type device does not sound that far fetched. When sitting you could just lean forward somehow, and do the same to reverse.

So with that said, I don't think it would be difficult to sit while using a Segway-like device.

In my opinion, I don't think the current design of the Segway-HT should be altered in any way. It was made for standing. Perhaps some of the examples mentioned earlier in this thread could be a possibility one day.

[wderooy]

Thanks for that, Blinky. I wasn't trying to re-design the standup version, but I was speculating on the ability to lean forward and backward while supported by a saddle of some sort that can take the weight off the feet. It would be a different, future version perhaps. In my scetch I project the saddle rather high up so that the rider's knees are straight, not bent.

[Basheroffroad]

I am a newcomer to the site and I do not yet own a Segway but I plan to get one soon. I was thinking something along the lines of a clamp on version as an accessory. that way they wouldn't have to build a new model just for the few that want a seat they could just sell them a seat as an accessory

Basheroffroad
FIRST team #63
The Red Barons

[Stewbonz]

I have ridden a Segway with a seat.
SC Member SITSEG had a wooden box made with a foam cushion.
Stopping and starting are a bit less precise but with practice, no problem.
If the seat is made at the same height as a wheelchair, then a disabled person can slide onto the Seg-seat easily. Anyone designing a seat should remember that the foot sensors need to be depressed unless you have the older software.

Picture here: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/youngjarvis/detail?.dir=7d3a&.dnm=ff42.jpg&.src=ph

JEFF JARVIS
http://www.thailandsegwaytours.com/

[Neelix]

quote:Originally posted by Stewbonz

I have ridden a Segway with a seat.
SC Member SITSEG had a wooden box made with a foam cushion.
Stopping and starting are a bit less precise but with practice, no problem.
If the seat is made at the same height as a wheelchair, then a disabled person can slide onto the Seg-seat easily. Anyone designing a seat should remember that the foot sensors need to be depressed unless you have the older software.

Picture here: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/youngjarvis/detail?.dir=7d3a&.dnm=ff42.jpg&.src=ph

JEFF JARVIS
http://www.thailandsegwaytours.com/


Wait until you see his new seat, Jeff. Its metal, and awesome.

Also, I'm certain that there was no software version ever made available to the public that did not require the foot sensors depressed.

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[KSagal]

Basheroffroad,

Since the dates of the thread postings that you responded to, there have been very many variations and seating modifications.

Look around on this forum, and you will find several threads.

Good luck.

Karl Ian Sagal

Each road you travel should be just a bit better for having had you pass.

[Segway of St. Louis]

Rider detection buttons on the floor of the HT are a huge safety issue. Plus software is disigned for standing. Then again Centaur rides in balance mode while seated or standing but that is a concept product.

So probably could be done but it doesn't look like Segway wants it done seated at this time.

Jeff Bach
Segway of St. Louis

Jeff Bach
Segway of St. Louis
636-754-4000

[pam]

Segway hasn't provided for it at this time, (and I'm guessing may not because of legal issues surrounding it's contractual relationship with Johnson and Johnson) however there are a couple of people who have disability issues (and at least one who hasn't) who have created "seats" as aftermarket items. If you're interested, you would need to look at the aftermarket items. I think Wayne has one and Offngo has another.
Pam

[Nelda]

I say go for it! And, I'd like to volunteer as you're beta tester!
This idea has been around awhile and I've been waiting for someone to actually MAKE one.
I'm 4'11 1/2" tall and don't want a chair seat. I want a barstool seat for an occasional minute or two to rest my feet when I've been gliding for a couple of hours. (antique shows, trade shows, stuff like that).
The 'seat' need only be like, 28" from the platform.
For those of us that don't need a 'fulltime' seat, I think a hi seat, would be fine since you're still almost standing. Out on the trails I wouldn't think of using a seat, but level, long areas, in my opinion, seem perfectly safe. As far as having to be able to dismount in a hurry: been there, done that. I won't go down with the ship, but I will go down with my Segway.
"Build it, and they will come" sounds like a great business if they don't charge too much.
Nelda

[GadgetmanKen]

Yes this is an old topic, but as usual its never been defined into a product everyone could or would need. I have pics of at least four different seated versions on my homepage. Thanks to fellow SC'rs. One uses a short four legged stool, another actually uses a full size bar stool (with bar and beer can steering) and then there's Wayne's single post seat, and then Leo's (sitseg?) boxed seat platform. I haven't seen Leo's new metal version, yet. I also have several seated version idea's of mine there as well. So it has been done, but not commercially as of yet. I think a tall almost standing type of resting post of some sort would most likely be best. I would like to update my webpage but my browser always locks up after I make the adjustments, preventing anything new or changing things. Bumms me out. Check out my homepage link icon on the top of this post to see them all.

"Wouldn't it be cool, if?...is like Folgers in my cup"