View Full Version : Details Re: Firmware/Revision 11.0
RAG1247
07-22-2003, 08:56 PM
I am advised that the changes in 11.0 are as follows:
The option to move the machine in riderless balance mode (previous mods allowed a riderless ht to go about three, then stick shake, then go another 3 feet and stick shake and then go into assist mode; I have never tried this).
When fewer than 3 rider-detect switches are engaged, the speed limit
is slowed to 5 mph.
Power assist has a lower top speed.
Speed-limiter has a 'softened' push back.
If you send to Segway for updating, cost is $125.00 or free at SegFest
Richard
Ft. Lauderdale
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ElectraGlide
07-22-2003, 09:06 PM
I certainly like free.....will be glad to have mine updated at Segfest if I bring the " i " along to Chicago.
Steve
do we know the release
date of f-r11.0? my
seg was sent 06.20.2003,
so mine may already be
updated?
kthxbye.
q.
//
RAG1247
07-22-2003, 09:31 PM
quote:Originally posted by q
do we know the release
date of f-r11.0? my
seg was sent 06.20.2003,
so mine may already be
updated?
kthxbye.
q.
//
if you contact llc with your serial number, they can advise the revision level of your unit
Richard
Ft. Lauderdale
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Stewbonz
07-22-2003, 09:43 PM
Try riding on one foot in the red key mode. Mine slows way down so I must have 11.0
JEFF JARVIS
Carmel Valley Ca
PoloAk
07-22-2003, 10:27 PM
quote:Originally posted by RAG1247
I am advised that the changes in 11.0 are as follows:
When fewer than 3 rider-detect switches are engaged, the speed limit
is slowed to 5 mph.
Power assist has a lower top speed.
This is not cool with me. I don't think I want the upgrade if I can't ride full speed on one foot.
Kelsey
"A closed mouth gathers no foot."
Yes, Diane Sawyer would have been out of luck, right? <G>
Pam
toybuilder
07-23-2003, 02:16 AM
quote:Originally posted by RAG1247
When fewer than 3 rider-detect switches are engaged, the speed limit
is slowed to 5 mph.
I just tried this on my way home from work today to check it out. On my Segway, the 5 mph limit engages when only one switch is engaged -- that is, I had to tip-toe or heel-stand on only one foot.
Standing flat with only one foot (and thus having two switches) kept the regular speed limit.
I think it's a good safety feature. I think it gives the platform an advanced reaction to when someone is about to destabilize and fall off. The rider normally shouldn't be gliding tip-toed.
http://www.pasadenasegway.org/
A bicycle in 1897 cost $25 ($2,200 today adjusted for inflation).
A Ford Model-T cost $850 in 1908 ($75,000 today adjusted for inflation).
(Can anyone point me to historical prices of horses?)
Sid Viscous
07-23-2003, 02:21 AM
"When fewer than 3 rider-detect switches are engaged, the speed limit
is slowed to 5 mph."
Ack that's awful. Why not make it all 4 and two in the handgrips. And if you turn your head it goes into safety shutdown.
Peter iNova
07-23-2003, 02:04 PM
Those who use the Seg as a motorboat for roller-skiing might wish to keep the power mode at its higher speed. But I've seen ToyBuilder's 11.0 mode machine and the un-ridden mode is improved. Ya takes yer choice.
http://www.glidewalk.com/GWPix/SegSkaterMed.jpg
-iNova
http://www.glidewalk.com
i called s-llc with my
serial#. my seg was
shipped 06.20.2003
and it has revision
11.0. ymmv.
i think the firmware
upgrade is for the
"early adaptors,"
but one may want to
call in the serial#
to be sure.
kthxbye.
q.
//
quote:Originally posted by q
i called s-llc with my
serial#. my seg was
shipped 06.20.2003
and it has revision
11.0. ymmv.
i think the firmware
upgrade is for the
"early adaptors,"
but one may want to
call in the serial#
to be sure.
kthxbye.
q.
//
//
...opps...
..."early adopters..."
kthxbye.
q.
//
Deviant
07-23-2003, 06:09 PM
Those wanting the software update at SegFest MAY (only my idea) be able to just bring your two controller boards, rather than the entire 80+ pound vehicle.
Could my concept be verified? (surely LLC will be able to have power and cables on hand) This could be a real plus for some, expecially those considering leaving their HT behind and renting or walking.
Sid Viscous
07-23-2003, 06:11 PM
Technically it's feasible Deviant. But Segway is not going to want you to do that. They don't like people getting into those boards, and they are static sensitive.
JohnM
07-23-2003, 06:27 PM
quote:Originally posted by Sid Viscous
They don't like people getting into those boards, and they are static sensitive.
The boards or Segway LLC?
Sid Viscous
07-23-2003, 06:27 PM
Not to mention removing the cover and getting the boards out is a real pain, and getting them back on and sealed well is difficult as well.
Sid Viscous
07-23-2003, 07:13 PM
Both John.
citivolus
07-23-2003, 09:49 PM
I have 11 and it seems to me that it needs one front rider detect and the opposite rear button to be depressed in order to avoid the reduced speed limit.
--
swiftly flying
mzokc
07-24-2003, 04:17 AM
The concern with the 5 mph speed with fewer sensors is the need to be able to lift a foot on long glides.
Mark
Brooster
07-24-2003, 06:56 PM
quote:Originally posted by opti6600
I'll volunteer to take powerbase shipments for those of you that want the upgrade but can't get there. I'm not confirmed for SegFest yet, but if you're interested, I'll keep you posted.
Opti, I kinda think people have to be in attendance to get the upgrade. Even then, the LLC has made it known that there will be a sign-up sheet and that space is limited.
Brooster
Brooster
07-24-2003, 07:23 PM
As one of the organizers of this event, I want to be very clear in letting people know that attendance at SegwayFest does not constitute any absolute guarantee of a software upgrade. This is something the LLC is doing as a favor for as many people as they feel they can accommodate, and that's why there will be a first-come, first-served sign-up sheet. Please re-read the Segway HT Software Upgrades section in the "Segway LLC's SegwayFest Participation Updates" thread, as it contains the LLC's "official" announcement pertaining to this matter. You will have to sign up for a specific time slot, and please notice that it says, "bring your own machine to the upgrade station."
http://www.segwaychat.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4390
I'm sure they'll do the best they can with the time and staff they have available, but please understand in advance that it's a first-come, first-served sort of thing.
Brooster
opti6600
07-24-2003, 07:23 PM
Gotcha. Yeah, I figured that would be pushing it, but a nice alternative to voiding your warranty, ticking off LLC, and relying on FedEx to ship multi-k devices, hehe.
Offer retracted!
---------
Let's just take the safety labels off of everything and let America's problem sort itself out.
Race3
07-24-2003, 07:58 PM
How many people have signed up for the event as of now? just curious. thanks.
That was just posted in another forum.
Pam
Brooster
07-24-2003, 08:04 PM
As of now, roughly 75-80 people, with maybe 50 Segs. We expect this number will increase a bit.
Brooster
toybuilder
08-14-2003, 12:55 AM
Well, folks, it turns out that I was wrong. The speed limiter does in fact kick when only one side of foot sensors is engaged. During my experiments, the onset of the speed limiter in the "one foot" situation was gradual and I didn't notice the speed limiter engaging because I didn't stay one-footed very long.
This is in contrast to when only one sensor is engaged -- the speed limiter kicks in and does so very assertively and immediately. This is what I had originally mistakenly reported as the only time when the lower speed limit kicked in.
Thanks to Bruce Wright for suggesting I take off the mat to be extra sure of the behavior.
Joseph
quote:Originally posted by toybuilder
quote:Originally posted by RAG1247
When fewer than 3 rider-detect switches are engaged, the speed limit
is slowed to 5 mph.
I just tried this on my way home from work today to check it out. On my Segway, the 5 mph limit engages when only one switch is engaged -- that is, I had to tip-toe or heel-stand on only one foot.
Standing flat with only one foot (and thus having two switches) kept the regular speed limit.
I think it's a good safety feature. I think it gives the platform an advanced reaction to when someone is about to destabilize and fall off. The rider normally shouldn't be gliding tip-toed.
http://www.pasadenasegway.org/
A bicycle in 1897 cost $25 ($2,200 today adjusted for inflation).
A Ford Model-T cost $850 in 1908 ($75,000 today adjusted for inflation).
(Can anyone point me to historical prices of horses?)
http://www.pasadenasegway.org/
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