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Peter iNova
05-20-2003, 12:58 PM
NPR reports this morning 5-20-03 that San Francisco's hyper agressive parking ticketing operation circulated an internal memo to "get 40,000 parking tickets in 45 days," meaning at full value, $100 each, or pumping up the city's cash by $4 million.

http://discover.npr.org/features/feature.jhtml?wfId=1269019

Why at that rate, they can bleed the population of $32,000,000 each year unless San Franciscans start rolling up and down their hills on some non-parked conveyance. (The actual income last year was $67,000,000 with seven tickets on the average per household!)

Citizens were outraged to discover this cynical bleeding of the public trust by their government when it was leaked in a local newspaper story. The Mayor even accused the reporter of "fabricating" it. Right. As if. But SF is known for its highly enlightened governance around here, isn't it?

The city most poised to benefit by the presence of the HT turns out to be the one city that most stands to endanger this cash cow unless they are banned. For every HT that is allowed on the sidewalks of San Francisco, that means one less driver circling endlessly for precious parking spaces and potentially one less opportunity to catch the vehicle as soon as that meter flips. To couriers in the city center, each HT could represent its complete cost per year in lost ticket revenue.

And one certainty: The city isn't spending $32,000,000 per year on relief-giving parking structures. And if HT popularity were allowed to breed, they wouldn't have to, but then again they wouldn't have the 32 million.

Of course we are completely certain that the artificial pressure to keep city parking as a scarcity, thus ensuring a higher rate of violators from which dollars can be trimmed, is totally and utterly a side issue. Yeah, that's the ticket. It's a... complete coincidence.

Seriously, San Francisco: The whole nature of urban transportation needs a change. Oops! Here's one now. What's that? You're not interested? Or not awake?

-iNova

http://www.glidewalk.com




BruceWright
05-20-2003, 01:29 PM
Now if we can just find the smoking gun that proves that WalkSF was in collusion with this plan... hehheh

Naw, that's too much of a stretch.

But it does show that Ban Fransisco is one seriously messed-up city where transportation policy is concerned.

-Bruce Wright

Segway: Vehicle of Dream

Private Pile
05-20-2003, 05:21 PM
I love it when stuff like this is leaked out. Is anyone surprised that they have quotas?

pt
05-20-2003, 05:37 PM
that's pretty crummy. my pals in sf tell me everyone knows the politics is run by a "tyrannical minority" and there's quite a bit of corruption...many folks are moving, the town for the most part is falling apart and there are major problems. i like the city, it's been depressing to see it get worse each time i visit.

that said, you can still use hts in the streets and bike lanes, there's no reason why people can't use the ht in sf, as we've heard many people still use the sidewalk, the police aren't politicians, they tend to use common sense and simply look the other way towards more important things.

cheers,
pt


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BruceWright
05-20-2003, 05:49 PM
Hey, how could the police cite you for Segway riding? They've got writer's cramp from all the parking tickets!

-Bruce Wright

Segway: Vehicle of Dream

toybuilder
05-20-2003, 06:35 PM
Having lived in SF for a couple years, I'm not surprised. DPT (Department of Parking and Traffic -- note how the P comes before the T) is very aggressive to begin with. About the only thing they don't enforce aggressively is the 3-day rule (car must be moved every 72 hours) for an otherwise-legally parked car in residential zones.

The DPT revenue contributes quite a bit into the city's budget.

BTW, it's not unusual to see more DPT officers in a day than SFPD!

http://www.pasadenasegway.com

lipinsky
05-20-2003, 08:23 PM
Guys (and Gals) don't worry about all this. The "big one" will hit and "take care of" this problem. Then this craziness will go away.

BruceWright
05-20-2003, 08:35 PM
Heheh.

That's what happened last time. Ban Fransisco wouldn't allow automobiles into the city, but then when the great Quake of '06 occurred, auto owners put them into emergency service as ambulances and relief delivery trucks. That's what broke the ban, and proved that automobiles DID have a valid place within the City that Bans first and asks questions later!

-Bruce Wright

Segway: Vehicle of Dream

stevew
05-21-2003, 12:31 AM
maybe after the next big one Segways will be used as emergency vehicles. I usually keep my ht in the trunk just in case a disaster -- natural or otherwise -- prevents cars from getting through.

Neelix
05-21-2003, 12:51 AM
San Francisco is steadily going downhill. I am glad I spend most of my time in Pacifica, which is a beautiful coastside city that I am going to REALLY enjoy gliding around in, when I get my Segway.

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Fear not, for even though I come from the Forbidden City, I surely do not agree with the rules.

Peter iNova
05-21-2003, 03:13 AM
"San Francisco is steadily going downhill." Masterfully funny, that.

-iNova

http://www.glidewalk.com