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pwyckoff
05-19-2003, 02:47 PM
I thought this might be instructive for all disabled Segway riders, and potentially for the Segway population at large.

I recently took my Segway from San Francisco to Washington DC flying Jet Blue from Oakland Airport to Dulles. I cannot state more emphatically how positive my experience was, which I believe was in part due to a little planning, decent manners and some good luck.

Here are some of my experiences and suggestions:

Call the airline ahead of time and indicate that you are disabled and will be bringing your own personal mobility device called the Segway Human Transporter. Be prepared to answer questions about the weight, battery, ability to fold the handlebars etc.

At the airport, be sure to have your currently valid disabled auto placard visible (I made some reduced size copies of the placard, laminated and put on a chord around my neck). Be prepared to show security personnel your valid disability card (the one you keep in your wallet from the DMV), and of course remain ultra cordial and polite (try to get your boarding pass from the automated dispenser prior to going through security, so you don't have to wait on line at the check in counter).

Though every airline has its policy (Jet Blue is fantastic!), you should be able to ride your Segway from the entrance of the airport directly to the gate where airline personnel will take it, stow it, and provide you with a gate check voucher which you will present on landing. The Segway will be brought to you at the gate.

Note: Upon return, I was asked whether the battery cables could be disconnected, so be prepared to explain how the battery is self-contained, sealed in plastic etc.

I used the Segway throughout the airport, in shops, restaurants, up and down elevators and on transit buses at Dulles without problems. In order for Segway users to establish a positive first impression, one must ride VERY SLOWLY and continue to display your valid handicap placard at all times. I believe that these positive first impressions can eventually extend to the Segway population at large, thereby increasing the chances for acceptance on public and private transportation, in airports, train terminals etc. (note the already positive acceptance in France).

Since transportation from the airport to one's destination may be an issue, I would recommend investigating either city taxi vans or private car services that employ large cars (i.e. Lincoln Town Cars) where the Segway can easily fit in the trunk.

As for my stay in Washington, it could not have been more agreeable. I used my Segway in the hotel, rode down Pennsylvania Avenue, in and out of the World Bank building, for coffee at Starbucks, and lunch at a French brasserie.

The inquiries were fast and furious (as expected), but always positive and constructive.




Brooster
05-19-2003, 02:58 PM
Wonderful post Pwyckoff, and welcome to SegwayChat!

Brooster

Lohja
05-19-2003, 03:21 PM
Pwyckoff,

How do you load and unload the Segway into a car or its trunk? I'm glad they treated you well in DC.

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GlideMaster
05-19-2003, 03:23 PM
Great information pwyckoff, I'm sure there are a few members or voyeurs that will be able to use this valuble information. It also goes to show that the old adage is true "you can catch more flies with honey than with vingar." It pays to be courteous. Glad you had a very positive trip. You have just become an Ambassadoor of the Glide.

<center>The GlideMaster</center>

fredkap
05-19-2003, 06:34 PM
Great post and one more example of some great Segwayers that might read our chats but don't regularly post here.

Much happy gliding!

Fred

Deviant
05-19-2003, 09:53 PM
That's fantastic. May your trailblazing be beneficial to all in the future!

SegMe
05-19-2003, 11:27 PM
If this isn't intrusive, what is your disability & how does the segway help you get around?

paralysis Steven
05-22-2003, 12:13 AM
hello

I can not walk! how do I load & unload?

pam
05-22-2003, 09:48 AM
quote:Originally posted by paralysis Steven

hello

I can not walk! how do I load & unload?



If you cannot walk, how would you get onto your HT? Can you stand in one place? What would you do when you got to your destination and needed to get off the Segway?
Pam

wayne
05-22-2003, 11:16 AM
Steven,

See if you can find someone that has a Segway and go look at it and see what you can work out.
If you can stand and walk a few feet you may be able to use the Seg.

If not I suggest you get a 3 wheel electric scooter.

Seg-On
www.kcaps.com

jillmac
05-22-2003, 01:06 PM
I think the more we explain the benefits to the disabled the better acceptance Segway will get all around. The 'outside world' still have the perception that it is a rich, lazy person's toy. That it is fast and that the people riding it are irresponsible idiots who will mow down the general public.

Environmentalists have an excellent argument but sometimes I think people just dismiss this out of hand - the general public (including me) is just too tied to their autos.

It really is a case of steady education of the benefits the Segway has for those whose mobility is limited by "whatever."

I am constantly amazed at the number of older and infirm people, or relatives of infirm folks, who stop me to ask about the Segway. I would say that the serious questioning (outside of the "wow - that's cool - can I have a go") comes from people who are interested in it as a mobility aid, not a fun toy. Of course, the fun toy bit is icing on the cake.

I usually have a folding cane sticking out of my backpack or a regular cane velcro'd to the control shaft, which pretty much announces that I have some problems. (Hey - even in my choice of canes I cannot be 'normal,' I have a wardrobe - one with a green snake curled around about 1/3 of the shaft and another with a grey and purple iguana crouched along the shaft!)

When people ask about the Segway I do stress that I use it to get around rather than have to sit home twiddling my thumbs. That I have been further out in the fresh air than I have been in years and that I use it instead of my car, not instead of walking. The walking bit just wouldn't happen!

RWC is working hard on this angle and is meeting with groups regarding the issue of use by people who have 'invisible' disabilities - those people who have to use a wheelchair or scooter are easily identifiable, but the 'invisible' disabled community is HUGE. It doesn't just encompass use of your legs either - as I have mentioned before - those with heart, lung, immune disease (causing invisible weakness and fatigue) - those numbers must be in the several million.

I'm sure it can be frustrating to those of you who extoll the virtues of the Segway for environmental reasons to have this issue constantly brought to the forefront, but I really do think it is an avenue worth pursuing if we want to keep the Segway on the sidewalks!!!!

Great post Pwy! and welcome to the forum (my son flies Jet Blue a lot and only has good things to say about them).

Jill



Nothing is inexplicable, merely unexplained..... Dr. Who

segwayowner
05-22-2003, 07:17 PM
Great post! Do people think that the segway will be accepted that well for non-disabled people?

DES: Segway owner

pwyckoff
05-23-2003, 05:06 PM
Regarding the questions about loading and unloading from cars/vans: I used a taxi van to get to the aiport and the driver did the work. Same thing upon my arrival; I rode the Segway from the plane to the pick up area outside the terminal, and let the driver put it in the back of his car (As mentioned, the trunk in a Lincoln Towncar is more than adequate).

pw

SegwayBill
05-24-2003, 05:02 PM
Pwyckoff
I had a similar experience last march with Spirit Airlines all I used at the time was a doctor’s hand written note and had no problems. I have only recently been diagnosed with CFIDS which is the most invisible all disabilities.
Your idea of using your handicap-parking permit is great. I am going to apply for mine and attach it to the front of my soft Segway bag.


Bill