Surge Protection for charging

[SegDog]

Hello,

This probably is as good a time as any to re-hash some old threads on surge protectors.

A good, quality plug-in surge protector is good insurance against spikes in your electric-service. Having a whole-house surge protector is a good idea. I use both.

As a former full-time electrician. I have seen the results of accidents, electrician (including many other professional installers) mistakes, and lightning. When I serviced a client, I would ask if they had any medical, computer, or other sensitive (expensive) devices. I wanted to see them, and advised to un-plug.

When a storm is predicted, I would un-plug all appliances that I don't want to replace.

[jryan]

I don't know much about surge protectors with Segway's but I suggest Monster all around. It is expensive and I got mine when I had a little more money but trust me the Monster's are the best you can get. Here is a link to the one I specifically have (I don't have a Segway but do have other electronics on it and have never had issues):

http://www.onecall.com/ProductDetails.aspx?id=20513

And this particular model is covered up to $500,000 so you can have a Segway plugged into every outlet and they would all be covered! I'm still trying to figure out how anyone can fit $500,000 in 12 outlets!

Jeremy Ryan

[SegwayDan]

Hello,

This probably is as good a time as any to re-hash some old threads on surge protectors.

A good, quality plug-in surge protector is good insurance against spikes in your electric-service. Having a whole-house surge protector is a good idea. I use both.

As a former full-time electrician. I have seen the results of accidents, electrician (including many other professional installers) mistakes, and lightning. When I serviced a client, I would ask if they had any medical, computer, or other sensitive (expensive) devices. I wanted to see them, and advised to un-plug.

When a storm is predicted, I would un-plug all appliances that I don't want to replace.

We use Uninterruptable Power Supplies with our computers, which offer better protection than surge suppressors.

[Tarkus]

I don't know much about surge protectors with Segway's but I suggest Monster all around. It is expensive and I got mine when I had a little more money but trust me the Monster's are the best you can get. Here is a link to the one I specifically have (I don't have a Segway but do have other electronics on it and have never had issues):

http://www.onecall.com/ProductDetails.aspx?id=20513

And this particular model is covered up to $500,000 so you can have a Segway plugged into every outlet and they would all be covered! I'm still trying to figure out how anyone can fit $500,000 in 12 outlets!

Jeremy Ryan

Yep buy Monster.

Monster's CEO Noel lee is one of us !

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i118/segforlegs/noel_lee.jpg

He uses it as a Mobility Aid and is a DRAFT benefactor.

Be Big,
Alan

[jryan]

Yep buy Monster.

Monster's CEO Noel lee is one of us !


He uses it as a Mobility Aid and is a DRAFT benefactor.

Be Big,
Alan

I was not aware of this Tarkus, thank you! Well that makes me even happier about my power strip purchase two years ago (it was $300 back then)! I must say Monster is hands down the best for any surge protectors or home audio! And now that I know its CEO is one of us I will continue my practice of supporting Monster!

Jeremy Ryan

[quade]

I don't know much about surge protectors with Segway's but I suggest Monster all around.

Sorry to tell you this, but Monster is by far the most over hyped and over priced version of any cables or devices they have to offer.

I simply can't in good conscience recommend any of their products for anything other than more quickly separating your money from your wallet.

Great marketing, truly average performance, truly outrageous prices.

[segsurfer]

Yep buy Monster.

Monster's CEO Noel lee is one of us !

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i118/segforlegs/noel_lee.jpg

He uses it as a Mobility Aid and is a DRAFT benefactor.

Be Big,
Alan

I'm diggin' the flamed seg.:D What is that, a p.
-segsurfer

[Five-Flags]

... I must say Monster is hands down the best for any surge protectors or home audio! ...

Jeremy Ryan

I'd hate to burst your bubble, however, I'd like to see some of your qualifications in engineering and your comparative test results of ALL the other manufacturers' products.

You may think it is the best, but I have seen many other products that meet the same specifications with a MUCH lower price tag. They DO have a marvelous marketing (propaganda?) program, however.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

I do however, think the company deserves credit for its contributions to DRAFT, and that may make the extra cost justifiable. It is certainly a worthwhile cause.

[Tarkus]

Sorry to tell you this, but Monster is by far the most over hyped and over priced version of any cables or devices they have to offer.

I simply can't in good conscience recommend any of their products for anything other than more quickly separating your money from your wallet.

Great marketing, truly average performance, truly outrageous prices.

No question about that!

INC should have done as well at marketing.
Bad marketing, great performance, and outrageous prices.

They had one part right.

Be Big,
Alan

[quade]

(Whew! For a minute there I thought I was gonna get slammed by you for dissing a company who's leader you may have personally liked.)

Glad we agree!

[Tarkus]

(Whew! For a minute there I thought I was gonna get slammed by you for dissing a company who's leader you may have personally liked.)

Glad we agree!

I do like the guy. He's always been nice when we would see one another.

I agree with your assesment of both product and marketing.

I find being able to market an average "hot dog" and make it sound like it's the all time best very American.

Even when it's about the same as the competition and you can demand a premium, and get it.

I, obviously, still buy Monster as Noel is a supporter. Do I think others should do the same ?

Yes, tongue firmly planted in cheek !

Be Big,
Alan

[jryan]

I guess it all depends on what you consider to make something the best! In my mind price doesn't factor as much into the decision as name recognition. The fact of the matter is that there are plenty of less flashy, and less expensive, surge protectors out there that would probably perform the same as my Monster!

The fact of the matter is, however, if you ask 1000 random Americans which they think is better, Monster or ????? chances are they will say Monster because Monster has more recognition therefore more credibility! When considering which is the best I factor in most importantly performance. In many cases performance is the same in both brands.

I then go by recognition. Chances are, if I have heard of the company, they won't be going anywhere. Chances are they will have more reviews and therefore more credibility in my mind! I wouldn't say I've seen any company with measurably better performance than Monster although I have seen measurably similar!

I choose Monster due to brand recognition and that recognition gives me peace of mind which is worth the extra money! And yes, I agree with Alan, that, if you know you have something in common with the leader of the company and you think he is a good guy that provides more peace of mind.


Jeremy Ryan

[jryan]

Regardless of our rants and raves about this company or that Segdog, I think everyone will agree when I say you need a Surge Protector! The biggest thing to look for no matter whether you go with the expensive high quality guys or a cheap Wal-Mart brand, make sure the surge protector comes with a guarantee for at least the amount of your Segway!

If they don't basically it can not work and you will just be up a creek when it comes to a replacement! Protection coverage does not really effect price much and you can get a $20 protector with $25,000 coverage which will be more than sufficient for your Segway! But make sure you get a surge protector and be sure to make sure it has coverage!


Jeremy Ryan

[quade]

The fact of the matter is, however, if you ask 1000 random Americans which they think is better, Monster or ????? chances are they will say Monster because Monster has more recognition therefore more credibility!

All recognition means is that people have heard the name. That's just marketing which as we've already stated is great. However, that doesn't equate with them being more credible. Doing things simply because the majority are doing them is a pretty silly way to go through life.

Unfortunately, this is also how we tend to pick our politicians.

Far better is to actually do some research on facts, not simply opinions of the masses. Remember, as a whole, half of everyone you meet is below average in intelligence.

[SegDog]

Thanks,

My attempt to raise awareness about protecting your investment seems to bring-out the best in some.

As a qualified electrician, I had to diagnose and then un-scramble wiring repairs done by my "brother-in-law, the engineer".

My favorite story is about a school (yes, with children inside). I was called to make a simple equipment change-out. I did my routine "safety-first" circuit-breaker panel disconnect (yes, nothing was marked). After, the change, I noted the new piece was running hot, and I immediately went into shut-down and "brother-in-law, the engineer" mode. After, checking and marking (in color - 3 phase) the panel, they told me that an HVAC contractor just put-in a new air-conditioner and commercial refrigerator, and that a small flame shot-out of the piece that I had just replaced. (Anger contained) I advised them that he jumbled the wiring in the panel, so that his stuff would start-up without regard for the differing line voltages. This made me a better electrician, and, also, got me to go to HVAC night-school. It didn't take long to see the problem. Moral: Fancy work-vans don't make good technicians.

[wwhopper]

Moral: Fancy work-vans don't make good technicians.

Does a fancy Segway mean a good glider?

SegDog, how was your trip to the mothership?

[KSagal]

Does a fancy Segway mean a good glider?

SegDog, how was your trip to the mothership?


Speaking as a guy with lots of blinky lights, and weird attachments on my segway, I would have to say, "Yes" it does make me a better glider... LOL


To followup up on the previous thought, I agree that good marketing does not mean superior products. Often the cheaper service, or weaker product does better because of marketing that is not based on the value of the product, but it's price, and is dependent on the ignorance of the consumer...

A good example of this is that celebrity endorsements work well. If this athlete or that actor likes this product, then it must be good. While those forms of marketing have proven to work for sales, they do very little to inform the consumer, and rarely offer a comparison of the actual function of the product...(or politician, or service, or whatever)

[Desert_Seg]

... A good example of this is that celebrity endorsements work well. If this athlete or that actor likes this product, then it must be good. While those forms of marketing have proven to work for sales, they do very little to inform the consumer, and rarely offer a comparison of the actual function of the product...(or politician, or service, or whatever)

Ah, Karl, you are a great straight man.

Read my soon to be posted new thread entitled F1 and Segway!

Steven

[KSagal]

Ah, Karl, you are a great straight man.

Read my soon to be posted new thread entitled F1 and Segway!

Steven


Now... Some might say the alternative would be the 'bent' man?

Maybe the 'funny' man?

How about the 'Gay' man? Choosing to use the definition similar to a particular song, "Now we don our gay apparel" before I had standard black clothes, and party black clothes...

I have been any of the above at various points in the day, or my life...

Ha ha

[hellphish]

Sorry to tell you this, but Monster is by far the most over hyped and over priced version of any cables or devices they have to offer.

I simply can't in good conscience recommend any of their products for anything other than more quickly separating your money from your wallet.

Great marketing, truly average performance, truly outrageous prices.

Thirding or fourthing this.

Edit: I also just saw this comic. I'll link it (http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2002/11/25) instead of putting it inline incase anyone is offended at the word "godd***"

[KSagal]

I had heard that the "Hyperformance Megaport" actually provides 121 volts, and will bring a gen 1 segway to full charge a full 8 seconds faster than a standard outlet! Wow!

There are times when you are in a rush, and a little extra time is the difference between landing that good job, or getting into that great college... I beleive you should take every opportunity to save time when you can...

Also, the shorter charge time saves energy!

Wow again!