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SegWayne
01-24-2008, 02:24 PM
IATA Dangerous Goods Regulations 49th Edition: What’s New? (http://www.iata.org/html_email/4490403-dgr_newsletter/dgr_newsletter_newl.html)

most interesting sections (to me).....
o Lithium ion batteries (UN 3480), Lithium ion batteries contained in equipment and Lithium ion batteries packed with equipment (UN 3481) The existing UN numbers applicable to lithium batteries and lithium batteries contained in, or packed with, equipment (UN 3090 & UN 3091) will be retained but the proper shipping names will be amended to become lithium metal batteries. This amendment and the new entries were agreed upon so that the different battery chemistries could be determined in transport. Lithium metal batteries exhibit very different characteristics to those of lithium ion batteries in the event of fire. There have been a number of incidents involving lithium batteries in air transport, and as a result it is likely that lithium metal batteries will be forbidden as cargo on passenger aircraft.

* Special Provisions.There will be a number of new and amended special provisions that will come into effect from 1 January 2009. These include:

o A45 has been significantly revised to reflect decisions taken by the UN Subcommittee requiring that lithium batteries and equipment containing lithium batteries be provided with greater protection from damage, short circuit and accidental activation. Reference to “lithium equivalent content” for lithium ion batteries has been removed and instead the watt/hour (W/hr) rating of a lithium ion battery will be used, with 100 W/hr being the trigger point beyond which a lithium ion battery will become fully regulated. It is very likely that A45 will be further revised by the ICAO Dangerous Goods Panel prior to adoption into the 2009 edition.


Very interesting..... anyone care to speculate? (Yeah, like on this forum there is a problem in this realm....:D )




KSagal
01-24-2008, 02:32 PM
I would just wonder what they mean by 'fully regulated'.

It is indeed good news, as they are waking to the fact that there is very different charicteristics for the different compositions, and the idea of a blanket ban seems to be waining.

Unfortunately, there is still some distance, as current LiIons on segways appear to be 400% of their tipping point...

Desert_Seg
01-24-2008, 02:40 PM
It appears to me that anything over 100 W/hr will have specific regulations attached.

Nothing outlines the regulations so saying anything more will be just rumor mongering.

Steven

SegWayne
01-24-2008, 02:44 PM
......will be just rumor mongering...

which, if "life experience" credit were given here, many would qualify for a PHD.....

Desert_Seg
01-24-2008, 02:55 PM
which, if "life experience" credit were given here, many would qualify for a PHD.....

And some will earn it on this post alone!

Steven

drmarty
01-24-2008, 04:11 PM
Karl,
I think Fully Regulated means "bad" at least for us. But we can hope.

It seems just as they acknowledge different chemistries (YEAH) they decide above a certain size has enough energy to be bad (BOOH) but in their defense one only has to see Stevens post of what the battery that shorted out did. Lot's of energy in that little pack.

Let's keep hoping.

Marty

Five-Flags
01-24-2008, 04:22 PM
which, if "life experience" credit were given here, many would qualify for a PHD.....

Segway Chat is in the forefront of participating PHDs:

Piled Higher and Deeper!!


(including myself, of course):D:D:D:D:D:D:D

polo_pro
01-25-2008, 12:44 AM
which, if "life experience" credit were given here, many would qualify for a PHD.....

A Polo Honorary Degree? I'm already a Mallet Scholar. And I got my Ball Striker certificate long ago.....