Flashing lights on XT when charging

[Rayreeves2]

I noticed lately that when my XT is charged fully, one of the leds, (the one marked F I think) is flashing. It flashed 5 times and then pauses, then repeats the sequence. Never stops while it is plugged in. The other light remains on but does not flash. Can someone give me a clue as to the problem?

Thanks,

Ray

[segsurfer]

I'm not sure about gen ones, but I know that on gen twos a flashing green light means there is a full charge, and a solid green light means that the battery is charging. Perhaps someone else could elaborate.

[wwhopper]

Your front battery (F) is doing exactly what it is suppose to be doing.

Sounds like your rear battery is never going into the final stages of the charge mode, where it balances out the charge.

Have you found your range reduced?

Have you found you will glide until all the bars around Blinky are gone, and it is still going?

Those are signs of a bad battery.

I would suggest that you swap them front to back first, to see if the light problem follows the battery. If it does, then it is time to think about a new set of batteries. I suggest a set because you will probably have AB or AC batteries on an XT and now we are up to AE, and it is best to have matching batteries. Though you can mix and match them, you are best to have a matched set. Your other battery is fine, and will do fine, so you might want to sell it to someone who is looking for a mate to one of theirs, or look for someone who is selling a mate to yours.

Remember Segway of Annapolis offers Seg Chat members a member discount on all Segway logoed parts and accessories and that includes the expensive batteries. Call Dick at 877.Segway.4

[polo_pro]

Has your segway sat a long time unplugged? It's possible one battery has been drained more than another. If so, you'd see them at different phases in the charging cycle. I know when I did my long distance gliding (and watched battery charging patterns closely to determine which packs might not carry me as far), I saw variations on when each battery in a pair might go into a new phase in the charging cycle.

[Rayreeves2]

I am still having the problem of the lights on F battery flashing 5 times and then pausing and then repeating the cycle. I have tried running the batteries down as per instructions in other threads, but each time after the charge cycle is complete the same thing happens. I am not sure if there is a degredation in my gliding time or not. I really haven't used it for long periods
without plugging it in.

I plan to change the front and rear batteries and see if that helps. I am a little concerned about removing them. There are several screws under the foot mat that I assume must be removed to drop the batteries. I there anything that I need to know, before I remove the screws,,,,,like connections that might need to be unhooked or might break. I prefer to glide, but don't really like to work on them:confused:

Thanks, Ray

[dionysus]

You might read Will's post again, the battery going into the flashing pattern is GOOD. It's the other battery (staying solid) that is the issue. After you swap, you're looking for both of them to be on solid for a period (depending on how low they are), then both should go into the periodic flashing pattern.

[hellphish]

I am still having the problem of the lights on F battery flashing 5 times and then pausing and then repeating the cycle. I have tried running the batteries down as per instructions in other threads, but each time after the charge cycle is complete the same thing happens. I am not sure if there is a degredation in my gliding time or not. I really haven't used it for long periods
without plugging it in.

I plan to change the front and rear batteries and see if that helps. I am a little concerned about removing them. There are several screws under the foot mat that I assume must be removed to drop the batteries. I there anything that I need to know, before I remove the screws,,,,,like connections that might need to be unhooked or might break. I prefer to glide, but don't really like to work on them:confused:

Thanks, Ray

First off, the flashing is good. Its not a problem. The solid light is what you need to be concerned about.

Secondly, you do not need to lift the floor mats to take off the batteries. The battery screws are on the bottom of the batteries, with the screwheads facing the floor. There are four in each battery and they are a breeze to take out.

[bentbiker]

I am still having the problem of the lights on F battery flashing 5 times and then pausing and then repeating the cycle. I have tried running the batteries down as per instructions in other threads, but each time after the charge cycle is complete the same thing happens. I am not sure if there is a degredation in my gliding time or not. I really haven't used it for long periods
without plugging it in.

I plan to change the front and rear batteries and see if that helps. I am a little concerned about removing them. There are several screws under the foot mat that I assume must be removed to drop the batteries. I there anything that I need to know, before I remove the screws,,,,,like connections that might need to be unhooked or might break. I prefer to glide, but don't really like to work on them:confused:

Thanks, Ray
Ray, the only screws you need to remove are 3 mm allen screws that are removed from the bottom of the battery. Don't remove any screws from under the mat. It sounds as if you don't have a reference manual, and if I am right, you should download that from Segway's site and read it. It will tell you about the charging lights and dropping the batteries.
http://www.segway.com/support/manuals-guides-archive.php

[DarthSegVator]

I plan to change the front and rear batteries and see if that helps. I am a little concerned about removing them. There are several screws under the foot mat that I assume must be removed to drop the batteries. I there anything that I need to know, before I remove the screws,,,,,like connections that might need to be unhooked or might break. I prefer to glide, but don't really like to work on them:confused:

Thanks, Ray


Don't remove any screws under the floor mat.

There are (4) screws per battery that are removed from the bottom. Tilt the machine forward, with the control shaft resting on the floor. You will see the two in the center (top and bottom) and one each on the sides (per battery). It is easiest to loosen them all a bit and leave the top middle screw in place till last. It also helps to label each battery with a piece of tape as to the starting position (front or rear) because after swaping back and forth you might get confused as to which position they were in.

On reinstall, start the top center first, then get the other three started (per battery). Snug them all down evenly and then go around at tighten in an alternating pattern.

Then check you charge lights to see if the steady green moves to the front position. If it does, that is the pack that is suspect. If it stays in the rear position, your control shaft base (with charger) is suspect. Either way, get to your dealer for help.

Let us know what you find.

[dgbint]

It's important to understand the basics.

There are two completely independent power systems ( that's part of the dual redundant safety stuff ).
So it is quite normal that one battery charges a bit differently to the other.
There's a number of reasons, and that can be explained later in more detail if you wish.

The main part of the charge cycle is 'solid green'.

After this main part of the charge has finished, a second maintenance psrt of the cycle starts.
This is indicated by a 'flashing green'.
There are in fact several flash styles, depending on software revision and battery technology.

Michael

[Rayreeves2]

Thank all of you for the information on how to remove the batteries and other comments to enlighten me. I removed the batteries and reversed them. Apparently the problem i IS the battery. The steady light and the flashing light changed positions when the batteries were switched.

I went gliding troday, probably only went a couple of miles, and the guage did not register any degredation in charge. Guess I better just ride it until the battery dies.

As to talking to my dealer, Sams Club is NOT very good on servicing their sales:( Also, I did get an owners manual with the XT, but since we are full time RV'ers, it as gotton misplaced and probably gone forever.

Thanks again,

Ray

[DarthSegVator]

Ray,

Most of the XT info. you may need is located here:

http://www.segway.com/support/manuals-guides-archive.php

Print out what you need so you have it handy.

[SegWayne]

Print out what you need so you have it handy.

Ray,
given the previous post, might be better to bookmark, or just save the pdf on your computer.... printing out does not seem to work well for you...:rolleyes: