Segway Tires

[alamopokeymom]

I am taking my Segway to China and will depend on it for mobility. I did not realize that the tires could not be repaired by anyone but Segway -- has anyone experienced any tire trouble? Thanks for your help.

[bentbiker]

I am taking my Segway to China and will depend on it for mobility. I did not realize that the tires could not be repaired by anyone but Segway -- has anyone experienced any tire trouble? Thanks for your help.
If you do a search for "Tire tires" you will get a lot of reading materials. What you say is not entirely true. Sadly, INC, has thus far refused to act responsibly and sell the tires and tubes by themselves, but there are a couple of video tutorials on patching the tubes on the i2 and much has been written about the use of Slime for the Gen1 tubleless tires (search for "Slime"). You will find many 3rd part tires that have been recommended.

See:
http://www.segwaytoday.net/SegwayToday/DIY/DIY.html and http://dfwseg.com/flat3.mov

[safety1st]

If you do a search for "Tire tires" you will get a lot of reading materials. What you say is not entirely true. Sadly, INC, has thus far refused to act responsibly and sell the tires and tubes by themselves, but there are a couple of video tutorials on patching the tubes on the i2 and much has been written about the use of Slime for the Gen1 tubleless tires (search for "Slime"). You will find many 3rd part tires that have been recommended.

See:
http://www.segwaytoday.net/SegwayToday/DIY/DIY.html and http://dfwseg.com/flat3.mov

John

It should only be a few weeks until we see tire, tubes, and rims available for purchase separately. Inc seems to be in the final phase of making these available. That has been a high priority issue we us here. They had ask for a copy of our video to help with instructions for changing the tire. That was done a couple of months ago. I spoke with the person in charge of this issue and this is what I'm told.

David Ford
Texas Segway
(Formally D/FW Segway)

[bentbiker]

John

It should only be a few weeks until we see tire, tubes, and rims available for purchase separately. Inc seems to be in the final phase of making these available. That has been a high priority issue [with] us here. They had ask for a copy of our video to help with instructions for changing the tire. That was done a couple of months ago. I spoke with the person in charge of this issue and this is what I'm told.

David Ford

David,
As always, thanks. I don't know what we'd do without your updates. I just wish my prior experiences with INC gave me confidence that their promised timetable will come to fruition. As it now stands, they've created a black market for the items; for only $30 and months of pleading you, too, can pick up a spare tube.

[alamopokeymom]

Thanks for the replies. I did forget to mention that I have a "tubeless" tire on my i167. sorry about that.
I have since found out from Segway Oakland that I can use a tube of "fix-a-flat" to seal any punctures. I will give that a try and see if I can get thru security with the can - I will try to check it in with the machine at baggage and will report when I return.
Again, thanks for the support.
alamopokeymom

[wwhopper]

A traveling carrier for your machine since you are going that far.

The Segway Travel Case was designed for the gen one machine, hard to find. But you can go to an Army Navy Store and see what you can find.

Key of course is size and material that the case is made of to hold off the gremlins that hide in the baggage areas of airports.

The other thing that is very helpful is if the case has wheels - that helps you move the 100# box with ease.

[Tarkus]

A traveling carrier for your machine since you are going that far.

The Segway Travel Case was designed for the gen one machine, hard to find. But you can go to an Army Navy Store and see what you can find.

Key of course is size and material that the case is made of to hold off the gremlins that hide in the baggage areas of airports.

The other thing that is very helpful is if the case has wheels - that helps you move the 100# box with ease.

Or do it on the cheap:
http://dc-segways.com/segwayassembly/travelpacking.html

Be Big,
Alan

[hellphish]

Or do it on the cheap:
http://dc-segways.com/segwayassembly/travelpacking.html

Be Big,
Alan

Why is one battery 0.2 lb heavier than the other?

[bystander]

Why is one battery 0.2 lb heavier than the other?Why is one battery 2% heavier than the other? Have no sure way of telling. Some possibilities:

Maybe because of production variances. Maybe the scale used was overly sensitive to the position of the object on the weighing surface.

There's a chart on page 23 of the gen1 reference manual which indicates that a pair of NiMH cells weigh 19 lbs. 9.4 + 9.6 = 19.

Maybe dc-segways only weighed one pack and subtracted that from 19 to determine the other one.

Other possible(?) answer:

Everyone knows riding a PT makes you lazy. The rear pack, by it's positional advantage, allows the it to aerodynamically "draft" behind the other. Since it expends less effort, it has a slight weight control problem.

It's fortunate that the top speed of the PT is so low. If it could go faster, the weight differential would be even higher, due to increased "drafting" efficiencies at higher speeds. If a PT were allowed to go fast enough, the rear pack would become so heavy with respect to the forward pack that the PT could lose it's ability to balance itself.

602

Oops! Sorry about that.

[safety1st]

If you do a search for "Tire tires" you will get a lot of reading materials. What you say is not entirely true. Sadly, INC, has thus far refused to act responsibly and sell the tires and tubes by themselves, but there are a couple of video tutorials on patching the tubes on the i2 and much has been written about the use of Slime for the Gen1 tubleless tires (search for "Slime"). You will find many 3rd part tires that have been recommended.

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John

Inc has just notified us that i2 tires and tubes are now shipping to dealers. Finally!! We have 20 on the way to us.

David Ford

[bentbiker]

John

Inc has just notified us that i2 tires and tubes are now shipping to dealers. Finally!! We have 20 on the way to us.

David Ford
Thank you, David. I believe all i2 owners owe you for helping get this done AND for communicating the information. I'm shocked that I didn't see them earlier today on the accessories page of INC's site.:rolleyes:

Can you please post the prices of each item or PM me separately if you prefer?

[safety1st]

Thank you, David. I believe all i2 owners owe you for helping get this done AND for communicating the information. I'm shocked that I didn't see them earlier today on the accessories page of INC's site.:rolleyes:

Can you please post the prices of each item or PM me separately if you prefer?

I believe, I'm at home so this is from memory, MSRP on the tire is $39.95 and the tube is $13.99.

David Ford
Texas Segway

[cmonkey]

this is so cool, I'm going to have to order a set of tires for my trusty gen 1!

[bentbiker]

this is so cool, I'm going to have to order a set of tires for my trusty gen 1!
Will the i2 tires fit on the Gen1 wheels???

[Sharkie]

Will the i2 tires fit on the Gen1 wheels???

Yes, I currently have a set of Ryan's i2 tires on my stock 180 rims.

Jim

[bentbiker]

Yes, I currently have a set of Ryan's i2 tires on my stock 180 rims.

JimThanks, Jim.

That is great! Everybody wins with this change. Are you running them with tubes or tubeless. If tubeless, are you using Slime or will they seal without?

[Sharkie]

Thanks, Jim.

That is great! Everybody wins with this change. Are you running them with tubes or tubeless. If tubeless, are you using Slime or will they seal without?

I'm running them with tubes. I just love the way they don't lose pressure that way. I can add air every couple of months with tubes. Even with slime, when I was tubeless, I usually lost a couple of psi per month. I just got some regular 2.50 X 14 tubes at a motorcycle shop and used them. The curved valve stems aren't needed on the 180 wheels.

Glad I could help
Jim

[alamopokeymom]

Thank you for your tire responses - I took along a can of "fix-a-flat", but luckily did not need it - I checked it with baggage and no one ever questioned it.

[Sharkie]

I would strongly discourage you from using "fix-a-flat" or products like that. They put a residue in your tires that makes them completely unrepairable. Almost every tire shop I have dealt with in the last few years has signs warning that if such a product has been used, the warranty on the tire is void, and they will not work on them. Slime is one thing, but that stuff should be just plain outlawed!

Jim

[hellphish]

A bottle of Slime and an aircompressor can do the job of Fix-a-flat without the mess.

[alamopokeymom]

Thanks for the travel case information -- I appreciate your help.

[KSagal]

...Other possible(?) answer:

Everyone knows riding a PT makes you lazy. The rear pack, by it's positional advantage, allows the it to aerodynamically "draft" behind the other. Since it expends less effort, it has a slight weight control problem.


602

Oops! Sorry about that.


Are you saying that my segways have a little Junk in the Trunk?!?

[SEGsby]

Where are the pics of you in China on your Seg!?!??

Post! Post! Post!

Sounds like fun!

SEGsby

Thank you for your tire responses - I took along a can of "fix-a-flat", but luckily did not need it - I checked it with baggage and no one ever questioned it.