View Full Version : dangerous glide
eric_risch
08-20-2007, 06:01 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MegUZO5z8pw&NR=1
cmonkey
08-21-2007, 12:18 AM
I caught that one day, but lost the link.
I'm this close [ ] to doing that on my 170 :D
polo_pro
08-21-2007, 12:59 AM
Hmmm...small world. I was just there (where they shot that video). That's SF Electric Tours down on Beach St in SF! I didn't recognize the guy in the video though...
BillK
08-21-2007, 07:29 AM
My wife and I were just there as well - the fellow doing the tours was rather anal aboutthe training, and that was not him in the video.
Bill
macgeek
08-21-2007, 07:56 AM
SF electric tours, I guess he was showin off for the camera
I like there dog mascot!
Jonathan
wwhopper
08-21-2007, 09:21 AM
Doing stunts.
I wanted to see him jump the rest of the machines.
Anyone can ride a an I-180 on one wheel in tight circles, come on now!
KSagal
08-21-2007, 10:21 AM
Personally, I don't see anything wrong. He was doing a stunt, and he did it well. He was also alone...
Now that I think back, I do not recall if he had a helmet or not, and that should be on a video like that, but other than that, I do not see what the buzz is all about...
A few months back, there was a tour leader who was on you-tube and was rocking back and forth, with one foot on the fender... He almost lost it, but recovered. I recall there was a huge uproar about that one also, and while I think it was bad form, ONLY because he seemed to be the tour leader, I did not understand the great posturing there either...
I happen to be a fairly conservative glider. Others are not. I see no problem with riding as you like, as long as you are not hurting anyone or infringing on another's space...
macgeek
08-21-2007, 11:20 AM
Personally, I don't see anything wrong. He was doing a stunt, and he did it well. He was also alone...
Now that I think back, I do not recall if he had a helmet or not, and that should be on a video like that, but other than that, I do not see what the buzz is all about...
A few months back, there was a tour leader who was on you-tube and was rocking back and forth, with one foot on the fender... He almost lost it, but recovered. I recall there was a huge uproar about that one also, and while I think it was bad form, ONLY because he seemed to be the tour leader, I did not understand the great posturing there either...
I happen to be a fairly conservative glider. Others are not. I see no problem with riding as you like, as long as you are not hurting anyone or infringing on another's space...
Uproar?
There is no uproar, we are just talking about the stunt.
Derrek has been doing stunts at fest that would make Tony Hawk jealous
Where do you see a uproar?
Jonathan
hellphish
08-21-2007, 12:58 PM
Now I really can't wait to get my snow tires...
quade
08-21-2007, 01:18 PM
Derrek has been doing stunts at fest that would make Tony Hawk jealous
This I would like to see! But as we say in my business, "video or it never happened!"
Show me the video!
macgeek
08-21-2007, 01:29 PM
This I would like to see! But as we say in my business, "video or it never happened!"
Show me the video!
I know of eyewitness reports of him jumping picnic tables, riding sideways on a curb, Sitting on the wheel (sideways) and spinning, and i know of a photograph of a person who stood on a segseat and glided... (but I think alcohol was involved in that one)
:)
My biggest 'seg stunt' is gliding thru the streets of NYC
Jonathan
KSagal
08-21-2007, 01:30 PM
Maybe I was reading into the title too much... "Dangerous" in my understanding is a negative in this context. Some of the comments were not complementary...
This thread is not bad, but that other one had lots of people complaining. I thought this might be heading in that direction, if not, I am glad...
I also, rightfully, am reminded that not everyone is complaining. That is true...
As for Derrek, his videos are on the net in several places. Not having seen them, since he has been doing it for years, and many people have seen the videos and have had the pleasure of seeing him do some of them in person over the years, among other places, at several segfests, does not make them fiction.
Still, the story is only as credible as the storyteller, unless there is some other evidence. Jon has plenty of credibility anyway, even if all those videos were not out there, and they are...
...i know of a photograph of a person who stood on a segseat and glided... (but I think alcohol was involved in that one)
I think I was there for that one!
-Sal
polo_pro
08-21-2007, 06:34 PM
Now I really can't wait to get my snow tires...
I watched those snow tires in action for the first time in a polo match. Absolutely incredible. They grip the grass like it was pavement. The amazing part is how they finally break the grip on a hard hard turn. They let loose for a tiny bit and then just grab again.
It was a little bit like watching ABS kicking in! But instead of pulsing brakes, it was pulsing the traction in an extreme turn.
By the way, there was a couple other possible benefit to these tires. Like all knobbies, they grip the grass better. So when you're climbing the acceleration curve you get up it faster. You'll still top out at 12.5 MPH, but if you're a light guy, then that means you've reached 12.5 MPH earlier!
Finally the best thing about these tires is that they fit under i2 fenders. That means no one can complain about the size of the tire. I'm not sure if in tournament play, they're going to make us go "stock 14.2". We'll see.
ps - The watering schedule for the field was changes. So we weren't slogging around in puddles this time! I may even switch back to my slicks now that there's no safety issues with the wet grass.
KSagal
08-21-2007, 10:16 PM
I missed the reference to snow tires. Please explain...
bystander
08-21-2007, 10:27 PM
I missed the reference to snow tires. Please explain...a clue? (http://forums.segwaychat.com/showpost.php?p=149647&postcount=4). . .
KSagal
08-21-2007, 10:32 PM
a clue? (http://forums.segwaychat.com/showpost.php?p=149647&postcount=4). . .
That linked me to Polo's post about battery management. And it's reference to a long distance glide in the desert. I still don't get the snow tire thing... I guess I am dense, because I didn't get it, and I didn't get it's clue either...LOL
bystander
08-21-2007, 11:06 PM
That linked me to Polo's post about battery management. And it's reference to a long distance glide in the desert. I still don't get the snow tire thing... I guess I am dense, because I didn't get it, and I didn't get it's clue either...LOLI did't say it was an obvious clue!
The first line of that post is about rims. It would appear that someone had picked up some spare rims from the place in SF that had a lot of spare rims so someone else could order new tires and put them on said rims.
KSagal
08-21-2007, 11:52 PM
But what tires?!?
I got that the tires are probably on rims. That much I could figure out.
I was curious. Now I am just tired...
polo_pro
08-22-2007, 12:51 AM
I was responding to hellphish's comment about getting snow tires. I think he wants to do some trick gliding, and those IRC sn23 tires will help him. Check out the YouTube clip in http://forums.segwaychat.com/showpost.php?p=147656&postcount=94 if you'd like to see how their gripping power lets you do incredible things!
KSagal
08-22-2007, 01:30 AM
Thank you. I have not seen those particular tires in person, but I maintain that I have used many tires, and will stand behind my Ketts (Chen Shin 186) for both grip and comfort.
I would love the opportunity to go tire for tire in a traction, and all out contest.
If someone has other than standard tires, we should do a series and publish the results... It will require that not only we compete seg to seg, but also swap machines, so that the operator factor is minimized.
hellphish
08-22-2007, 02:32 PM
Pics of the SN23
http://forums.segwaychat.com/gallery/albums/userpics/13972/tire_sn23_mounted2.jpg
polo_pro
08-24-2007, 10:08 PM
Pics of the SN23
The cool part about those knobbies is how they spread out as they contact the ground. It looks like little fingers reaching out to grab whatever they can! And oh, is that rubber soft...I'm not sure how well it'd wear during normal usage.
william collins
08-25-2007, 10:45 PM
I've seen fire-eaters and fire fighters but the video on .....www.segforum.de
is too much
bentbiker
08-26-2007, 01:19 AM
http://www.segforum.de/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=130 takes you directly to the video -- just in case you don't read Dutch (?).I've seen fire-eaters and fire fighters but the video on .....www.segforum.de
is too much
SEGsby
09-03-2007, 02:02 PM
I want a pair, but can't find anyone to sell them to me. :(
SEGsby
Pics of the SN23
polo_pro
09-03-2007, 06:51 PM
I want a pair, but can't find anyone to sell them to me. :(
Hellphish got pretty lucky in getting a pair. Well, actually, if you don't mind me throwing in an OPTA, he got them because he plays polo. Turns out that a fellow polo player wisely imported several pairs. I'd known which of my fellow polo players were looking for knobbies, and I knew Hellphish would pay the premium price for a sweet pair of knobbies.
So a few calls, and the deal was set up. Heck, I even pulled a few strings and got him free rims with no shipping charges since someone's heading down to SoCal and bringing them with them!
What's the moral of this story? Play polo and good things come to you! 8^) 8^) 8^)
wwhopper
09-03-2007, 07:04 PM
What's the moral of this story? Play polo and good things come to you! 8^) 8^) 8^)
It is not WHAT YOU KNOW....
But WHO you know, and how nice you are to them! ;-)
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