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william collins
08-13-2006, 07:42 PM
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Sunday, Aug. 13, 2006
The Segway Riddle
Dean Kamen's inventive vehicle failed to change the world. Now he's back for a second act
By UNMESH KHER / BEDFORD, N.H.
Changing the world isn't easy. It's a lesson Dean Kamen, the guy who invented the Segway personal transporter, has learned the hard way. When he unveiled his self-balancing, battery-powered technological marvel (it seems a sin to call it a scooter) in 2001, he predicted that cities would banish cars from their congested hearts and wildly popular Segways would fill downtown pavements.
Or maybe not. That scenario isn't even remotely likely today. And Kamen, who chairs Segway's board, has been forced to adjust his vision. "We didn't realize that although technology moves very quickly, people's mind-set changes very slowly," he says. "People are very cautious, especially when it comes to the big issues."
Transportation, it appears, is one of those biggies. CEO James Norrod will say only that Segway has sold tens of thousands of personal transporters (PTs) and that sales are growing 50% annually. But it's obvious that Kamen's machine hasn't found much traction with consumers, even though 44 U.S. states allow the PTs on pavements. Segway has built expensive models for the commercial market, and more than 150 private and public security agencies globally are using them. And it just entered the Chinese market. But the innovation has proved to be far less than world changing.
Get ready for Round 2. Segway this week will roll out an upgraded $4,995 PT designed in part to leap "the chasm," marketers' term for the treacherous gap in a product's path from the first buyers to the mass market. The pager made the leap via doctors to the rest of us. Early adopters have snapped up their Segways. Now the firm has to sell everybody else on the idea. "It's a chicken-or-egg problem," says Klee Kleber, V.P. of marketing. "People won't buy it until their peers do, and their peers won't buy one until they buy it." He's betting that if Segway establishes itself in the security market, it will eventually win over cautious consumers.
The new model is another feat of engineering. It comes with a souped-up wireless key, which doubles as an alarm and a smart display module. But the real breakthrough is the ride. If the first Segway felt intuitive--lean forward to go forward, lean back to stop and reverse, twist your wrist to turn--the latest models (i2 and the off-road x2) respond as if they're controlled by mere thought. The secret is in the new control shaft, which has lost the steering grip and sways in synch with the rider to turn the device. The effect is akin to skiing on cement.
But will Segway's chasm-crossing strategy work? Geoffrey Moore, a managing director at TCG Advisors in San Mateo, Calif., whose book Crossing the Chasm helped shape Segway's strategy, doesn't think so. There's too much "pain" connected with its use, says Moore. He contends that consumers will worry--among other things--about issues of etiquette like where it could be acceptably ridden and parked. Although any one such concern is minor, together they have a multiplicative effect. "It's like Gulliver and the Lilliputians." Even the police and security market won't save it, says Moore, since it doesn't offer a unique solution to any mission-critical problem. "Segway," he believes, "is a product destined to live in the chasm forever."
That is not what Kamen--who still owns DEKA Research & Development Corp., the invention factory where Segway was born--expected from his baby. And he has tempered his goals, although he still sees carless downtowns in 10 to 15 years. "As people become more sensitive to the global environment," he says, "and as energy becomes more expensive, people will decide that Segway is a very attractive alternative for certain specific niches." Yet Kamen, like many other inventors, is an inveterate optimist. Segway doesn't need 50% market penetration, he points out. "The niche market for us is anybody with a set of feet. There are 6.2 billion of them out there." He's hoping just 0.1% of them--a paltry 6 million--will spring for a cool set of wheels.
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:) :) Time says the New Segway will be Released TOMORROW




macgeek
08-13-2006, 07:49 PM
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I hope you got permission, Time is after all owned by AOL, and YOU'VE GOT MAIL!

Jonathan

joe
08-13-2006, 08:24 PM
After his motto... :D

Better to ask forgiveness later then to ask permission and be refused

In the online article (http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1226171,00.html) there is also a picture of employees riding the new i2 but the image is somehow blurry... I think this will change tomorrow. :)

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Johannes

joe
08-13-2006, 08:35 PM
To the admins of this forum: now, after an acknowledged and "official" source like the TIMES unveiled the story I think it's time to stop deleting every thread and posting about the new models. I'm sure the TIMES doesn't violate a NDA, they'll use official press releases etc. like the photo with Dean and the i2s.

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Johannes

pam
08-13-2006, 08:37 PM
As I understand it, the Times release, which was theoretically scheduled for 6am tomorrow, was the official note we were waiting for. Nothing was official until the Times story. Thanks for your patience - (and for your help in not sabotaging that release). I'm guessing we'll see a new Segway site, tomorrow!

Pam

Florida Ever-Glides
08-13-2006, 11:27 PM
Does this mean they go on sale tomorrow? Will they be a Dealers to try out tomorrow?

joe
08-13-2006, 11:35 PM
I'm guessing we'll see a new Segway site, tomorrow!

Indeed, www.segway.com is "currently under construction" and there is a redirect to http://www.segway1.com/ (with the old content). :)

EDIT: Go directly to http://www.segway.com/products/ to see the new models! The previous models are moved to "Segway products archive"!! :(

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Johannes

safety1st
08-13-2006, 11:52 PM
See the new models on video.

http://dfwseg.com/david2.html

David

joe
08-13-2006, 11:56 PM
AWESOME: http://www.segway.com/build/index.html

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Johannes

Florida Ever-Glides
08-14-2006, 12:06 AM
Did anyone else notice that the article is somewhat unflatering. Comparing it to skiing is going to turn off some people who think skiing is difficult. And, The quotation from the strategy consultant says the Segway will never be embraced by the public for etiquette and other reasons.

I was hoping for a very positive cover story to jump start the new Segways...

william collins
08-14-2006, 12:07 AM
Segway site already has all the New Models and many differant assessories shown..Even a New type Kick stand and Carriers similer to Waynes carrier

Cube128
08-14-2006, 12:14 AM
Awesome, awesome, awesome! Too bad about the price being unchanged, tho.

artdutra04
08-14-2006, 01:10 AM
Although I love the new models, I'm glad that I bought an i180 before these new models came out. Having a Segway prior to the second-gen models is like having a car before 1913 (when Henry Ford unveiled the Model T). You are looked upon as a pioneer, and a bold leader whose not afraid to take risks with "new technology" that's not been widely adopted. You are the ones who helped pave the way to the new tomorrow.

Since this article claims that they're been growing at a rate of 50% a year, and assuming that 25,000 Segways have already been sold, then if the current growth keeps up there will be 1,441,626 Segways in a decade. In 20 years there would be 83,131,418.:eek: :D

(I think this 50% annual growth figure is correct and will continue. Within two weeks of recieving my Segway, I had already convinced two other people about seriously purchasing Segways. I love to ride my i180 around my town and neighborhood, as more and more people are actually seeing "real" people with Segways in "real" environments.)

Dan-Phx
08-14-2006, 01:12 AM
Awesome, awesome, awesome! Too bad about the price being unchanged, tho.

I agree. I was hoping they'd drop the MSRP by $500-$1k.

Stan671
08-14-2006, 01:15 AM
IMHO: They are probably going to leave the price the same as the old units until all of the old units are gone. This is to prevent the new units from leaving the shelves full of the old stuff. Once all of the old stuff is gone, then it would make sense to lower the price.

teekay
08-14-2006, 01:16 AM
If you price it by the pound and add on the Lith-ions it is a lot less $$$!!!

ebotee
08-14-2006, 01:23 AM
HAHA secrets out!!!!!! Couldn't wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1:D

teekay
08-14-2006, 01:24 AM
Now I get to ride it outside!