Dudes!

[drolsinatas]

This might be bad news ... it was funny when it happened, but now that I think about it...

The other day some old lady on a pee wee herman looking bike NAILED me on my Segway.

She wasn't looking.... she was traveling really fast with her head down. I tried to move out of her way but she just kept coming for me. She slammed her front tire into the side of my Segway, and she flipped over her handle bars and ate the pavement (in front of rush hour traffic at a really busy intersection).

I didn't get jolted at all. I didn't even have to put my foot down. It was Hilarious! ...of all the people to smash into .... it's the one dude in town on a Segway! hahahahaha

but.... I'm sure she went and complained to somebody about it.

For the record ... She came flying around a blind corner with her head down, and she failed to apply her brake.

[KSagal]

Were you in the street or on the sidewalk?

[Sal]

This might be bad news ... it was funny when it happened, but now that I think about it...

The other day some old lady on a pee wee herman looking bike NAILED me on my Segway.

She wasn't looking.... she was traveling really fast with her head down. I tried to move out of her way but she just kept coming for me. She slammed her front tire into the side of my Segway, and she flipped over her handle bars and ate the pavement (in front of rush hour traffic at a really busy intersection).

I didn't get jolted at all. I didn't even have to put my foot down. It was Hilarious! ...of all the people to smash into .... it's the one dude in town on a Segway! hahahahaha

but.... I'm sure she went and complained to somebody about it.

For the record ... She came flying around a blind corner with her head down, and she failed to apply her brake.


Of course, because you were on a Segway, it immediately becomes your fault. It's the nature of the beast. Even if you were on a bicycle, I bet it still would have been your fault (it sucks!)

As you say, if she was head down, turning a blind corner without any brake application... well... she got what she had coming to her. I hate to say it. but that's irresponsbile cycling.

-Sal

PS Around a corner, head down... straight ahead, head down... sounds like a walking pedestrian all the time to me.

[yosgof]

Of course, because you were on a Segway, it immediately becomes your fault. It's the nature of the beast. Even if you were on a bicycle, I bet it still would have been your fault (it sucks!)



Just the other day I was discussing this topic with one of the guys posting here (I will not disclose his identity but he is welcome to step forward).

After a brief discussion we both came to the conclusion that being Jewish and especially being married to a Jewish wife makes you absolutely ready and always prepared to be forever at fault. No exceptions! :D

I guess this makes us perfect Segway gliders!

[Sal]

... being Jewish and especially being married to a Jewish wife makes you absolutely ready and always prepared to be forever at fault. No exceptions! :D

I guess this makes us perfect Segway gliders!

Thanks for making me laugh today! That's priceless!

-Sal

[drolsinatas]

Were you in the street or on the sidewalk?
I was on the side walk...she was in the street coming onto the side walk.

[KSagal]

I was on the side walk...she was in the street coming onto the side walk.

I feel this could easily be a major consideration, since she was in the act of breaking the law and you were not.

Quite often the function of assigning fault (With the exception of Yossi's example) has considerations beyond the action to the justification of that action...

If you were doing what you do and you were legally doing it, and she was doing what she was doing and was not legally allowed to do it, then the fault assignment should shift in your favor, especially if you remind people that not only was she irresponsible and inattentive, but was also a criminal.

Had you been successful in avoiding her, what is to say she would not have maintained that behaviour, and rammed into a baby stroller a 1/4 mile up the road?

Now, if you were doing what you were doing and it was not legal, this argument goes out the window.

We should all be responsible for what we do, and we should all try to comply with the laws as well.

[JohnM]

I feel this could easily be a major consideration, since she was in the act of breaking the law and you were not.

She was breaking the law?? Without knowing exactly where the incident occured you can't make that assumption. Cycling on the sidewalk is often dumb, but not always illegal. And since the Segway is not recognized in MA as a pedestrian, the bike-must-yield-to-pedestrians rule doesn't apply. The lack of any EPAMD law throws the whole thing into fuzzy legal territory.

http://www.mass.gov/legis/laws/mgl/85-11b.htm

[KSagal]

She was breaking the law?? Without knowing exactly where the incident occured you can't make that assumption. Cycling on the sidewalk is often dumb, but not always illegal. And since the Segway is not recognized in MA as a pedestrian, the bike-must-yield-to-pedestrians rule doesn't apply. The lack of any EPAMD law throws the whole thing into fuzzy legal territory.

http://www.mass.gov/legis/laws/mgl/85-11b.htm

None of us should get our spandex in a twist, read the rest of my post instead of quoting just a piece of it.

I went on to indicate in the same post that if she was illegal and the segger was legal, it would set the fault assignment in his favor, but if what he was doing did not qualify as legal, that argument goes out the window...

I believe very few will support the concept that it is okay for a bicycle to hit any sidewalk bound individual.

If you read the law at the link you included and observe paragraph (3) you will see that under any conditions, she violated that part of the law. (Based on the information given thus far)

I was not and still am not concluding anything about this particular incident. I am commenting on the prejudicial assignment of blame, based on the facts given in the quote that I included.

[Stewbonz]

Dude,
Like if one of the Dudes had an illegal substance in his bloodstream Dude, the fault assignment could impact that Dude, Dude.