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pt
02-02-2003, 11:07 PM
i've received a few questions about the safety of the ht as far as "what if it ran over my foot". well, many people have said that running over a foot doesn't hurt, and while that's true, but we wanted to see how it did with a human hand as well.

http://www.bookofseg.com/hand/foot_and_hand_0002.jpg

full article here:
http://www.bookofseg.com/hand/

cheers,
pt



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pdantic
02-02-2003, 11:11 PM
quote:Originally posted by pt

i've received a few questions about the safety of the ht as far as "what if it ran over my foot". well, many people have said that running over a foot doesn't hurt, and while that's true, but we wanted to see how it did with a human hand as well.


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JosephM
02-02-2003, 11:29 PM
Pretty soon people will want to see the Segway run over people's heads.

Another good job pt.

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JosephM
02-02-2003, 11:30 PM
Oh, and to add, your a REALLY good artist!!

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BruceWright
02-02-2003, 11:34 PM
Okay, that's the funniest thing I've seen on your site!

It's so melodramatic! Showing the artwork, the fear that you won't be able to even FEED YOURSELF! Oh the HUMANITY! ;)

It does make the point, however.

(And yes, I have had it go over a toe, and I'd trust my hand to it as well, but only if the tires were low-pressure!)

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pt
02-02-2003, 11:44 PM
quote:Originally posted by BruceWright I'd trust my hand to it as well, but only if the tires were low-pressure!


my tire pressure is at 15psi (which is what the manual states for the i series).

is that worth mentioning on the site? i don't think anyone will care about that...but you never know i suppose.

cheers,
pt

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pt
02-02-2003, 11:56 PM
quote:Originally posted by Brooster What was up with the horn sound on the first hand runover?

someone down the street ran a stop sign a bit (they were talking on their cell phone) and almost hit another car...i was looking at them from a distance up the street as my hand was getting ran over by the ht, they were beeped at the same time as i was doing my video, so i made another take (that's why there's two hand runs).

cheers,
pt

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BruceWright
02-03-2003, 01:11 AM
I like the beep, because of the timing. It was like a comedy moment. If only you recoiled in pain and instead of a scream there was that car honk.

I would mention that the tire pressure is at the recommended level, lest someone think you were cooking the experiment. After all, you even mention the type of shoe you are wearing.

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Segway: Vehicle of Dream
pt
02-03-2003, 01:26 AM
bruce-

i added the 15psi note, thanks for that.

cheers,
pt

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cosmo
02-03-2003, 01:33 AM
How about just running over your bare foot and remove any questions about steel toed shoes...

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pt
02-03-2003, 01:43 AM
cosmo-

i just might do that next filming, good idea.

cheers,
pt

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Brooster
02-03-2003, 01:49 AM
Let's not get too crazy with this thing ... shoes are good!

:D

Brooster
BruceWright
02-03-2003, 02:02 AM
Run over your head next!!!



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Brooster
02-03-2003, 02:08 AM
Some padded gloves might be good too ... I kinda don't think I'd do that again if I were you PT ... <belated cringe>

Not necessary. I'm sure it goes above and beyond any standards for safety testing, but ... you need your hands. That was (hopefully) the most extreme test we'll need to see, regarding the harmlessness of the Segway HT.

To all who have seen this video: Don't even think about doing this with your hands. Please.

Broo

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pt
02-03-2003, 02:19 AM
broo-

duly noted. i have no plans to run over my hand again (i can just show people the video now). and folks, don't try this at home, just send people the link to my video.

cheers,
pt

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emanresu
02-03-2003, 10:21 AM
Did you use a "Hand Model" ala Joey of "Friends", or were you doing your own stunts?
GlideMaster
02-03-2003, 10:35 AM
When I took my original training the instructor did the run over the foot thing but I never show this to people even when asked to do so. I just don't think it's advisable even though we know it does not hurt. Plus more important; it messes up the shine on my shoes and the polish on a females nails. [V] Good video though pt. Keep up the good work. Are your hands insured?


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Poindexter
02-03-2003, 02:18 PM
PT - how about doing a video showing what happens when a Segway runs into something?

The possiblity of Segways hitting pedestrians seems to be the most often voiced excuse lawmakers and sidewalk segregationists have for wanting the Segway banned from the sidewalks.

Here are some suggestions for collision tarkets:

1. Adult pedestrian from the front, rear and side
2. Child pedestrian from the front, rear and side
3. Large and small animals from the front, rear and side
4. Wheel chair from the front, rear and side
5. Another Segway rider from the front, rear and side
6. Storefront door opening into Segway path
7. Adult and child skateboarder/skater/bike rider/tike rider from the front, side and rear.

Of course the collision tests on living subjects might be better executed with crash test dummies as targets.

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pt
02-03-2003, 02:29 PM
poindexter-

it wouldn't be very scientific or acceptable by any of those folks, so i'm not sure it would be useful or welcomed.

but do i have some other videos planned that i think will be useful, stay tuned.

cheers,
pt

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Poindexter
02-03-2003, 03:05 PM
quote:Originally posted by pt

poindexter-

it wouldn't be very scientific or acceptable by any of those folks, so i'm not sure it would be useful or welcomed.

but do i have some other videos planned that i think will be useful, stay tuned.

cheers,
pt

http://www.bookofseg.com


Oh no, I would agree that the sidewalk segrationists would not find collision test videos evidential. However, sidewalk desegrationist certainly would!

In the face of any documented case of a Segway harming another sidewalk user all the segragationist have is fear mongering and "what if" situations. These methods seem to be working.

The sidewalk desegrationist need a response. Whenever some pedestrian advocay group and their members in the municiple and state planing departments and legislatures refer to the "potential" dangers of sidewalk collisions the HT riders need some concrete response to the contrary.

How long will it take before we see videos by these groups ploughing down pedestrians? I guess we can wait until that happens and react rather than be proactive.

In the future videos you are planing will you show the Segway's abiltiy to climb and jump off curbs? I'd like to see that and its abiltiy to handle pot holes and inclines with one wheel on the flat and one on the incline.

Thanks for the hand and foot video, although I'm not sure what it is supposed to prove. I've not heard any group saying that the Segway poses a threat to someone's hand or foot being run over.

It's the collisions that are the concern.

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BruceWright
02-03-2003, 03:06 PM
As far as collisions, I had an idea to run at a slow speed into a punching bag, showing the theory behind how the bar makes it stop, without the speed and danger.

-Bruce Wright

Segway: Vehicle of Dream
pt
02-03-2003, 03:36 PM
quote:Originally posted by Poindexter In the future videos you are planing will you show the Segway's abiltiy to climb and jump off curbs? I'd like to see that and its abiltiy to handle pot holes and inclines with one wheel on the flat and one on the incline.

surely, each day that's like 100% of my commute. i'm working on a way to film most of it soon.

cheers,
pt

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GyroGo
02-03-2003, 04:47 PM
Let's all give Segway a hand! (and pt 2)



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Peter iNova
02-03-2003, 10:10 PM
That was FUN!

And the sound effect couldn't have been better timed as your voice suddenly became very mechanical and urgent. In fact, one could float a human scream over the magic moment just for the heck of it. Depending on the actual sound effect chosen, the opportunities for comedy abound.

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JosephM
02-03-2003, 11:45 PM
Just think about having an old fashioned car horn right as it goes over, or.....

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mzokc
02-04-2003, 12:29 AM
Applause! Applause! Applause!
Cube128
02-04-2003, 12:32 AM
These little videos are nice, but when can we expect the prommised video of your commute?
pt
02-04-2003, 12:51 AM
quote:Originally posted by Cube128 These little videos are nice, but when can we expect the prommised video of your commute?


it would be great if i could spend more time on this stuff, but i really can't. the next 1.5 weeks are pretty busy, but i'll be able to create the commute video very soon, so stay tuned.

i've been working on a special camera mount and i think it'll work, i might post some test footage next week.

cheers,
pt

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n/a
02-04-2003, 07:36 AM
quote:Thanks for the hand and foot video, although I'm not sure what it is supposed to prove. I've not heard any group saying that the Segway poses a threat to someone's hand or foot being run over.


Good point poindexter, as well as the other points u bring up. Since there seems to be an increasing backlash to legalization of Segways on sidewalks due to imagined dangers, the time may be ripening for Segway LLC to either have independent saftey tests done and publish the details of the results or make some demo videos themselves using the sort of scenarios the anti-Segway lobbyists are scaring people with.