Tech Support - Gear Head Question

[macgeek]

OK, fellow gear heads. Its time to take my Segway Pimping to the next level.
I am building a RJ45 interface INTO my CS (Control Shaft) and running two sets of CAT6 Cable thru the Handlebars down to the Base.

My Questions:
I took apart the CS and Saw it's held together by a 45 degee angle clamp
(some referances to a 'lobster claw') that moves up and down with a rivit

But I cannot remove it, (the rivet is holding the whole thing together)
Can That rivet be removed and re-attached after I do my 'stuff'

Next Question:
The BASE , Its held together with three screws - any thing I should be cautious about before I remove the screws?

This is my first time going INTO my segway, most of my pimping has been done on the outside.

Since the reception to my mods were so well recieved at Segway NH fest
I thought I would do some New stuff for SegFest DC.

So (with insperation from Karl)
I am adding EL lighting (It LOOKS REALLY COOL)
New Street Effects Lighting to enhance the ones already on
A bit of re-working of the electronics (as described above)

I also am adding a second battery to add weight / Balence to the segway
(oh yea and power) (MUHAHAH)

So any help (Pictures?!) would be greatly appreciated!!!

Jonathan

"Think outside the car"

[Dragan]

Are you talking about the rivet at the top of the CS? If so, the answer is no, if you want to use the CS again.
as for the CSB, the bolts mounting it all have specific torque specifications, and you can't detach the CSB from the power base completely. There is a special tool for disconnecting the leads, without it you're hooped and only qualified service techs can get the tool you need.
Wayne

Segway of Alberta - Calgary
www.mysegway.ca

[macgeek]

Thanks Wayne,
I don't need to "disconnect" wires, just make some room to pass wires thru
Others have drilled holes in there CS, so someone should know HOW / Where

(I hope)

Also i am not afraid of 'voiding' the warrenty. I did that Quite Nicely already!

http://bandster.us/SegHawaii.jpg

Jonathan

"Think outside the car"

[macgeek]

And while digging thru old pics. Just for you people who DON'T know what I have done to my segway, This pictures SUMS up the mods (well, the OLD MODS)

http://bandster.us/segsorsist.jpg

Jonathan

"Think outside the car"

[Dragan]

I kinda figured the warranty thing was a non-starter ;^)
I'm sure you could probably drill through the CS...not sure where(I haven't got the
nerve to, and I have the tools to do the disconnect) but I bet there's
some enterprising segger on the board that'll help you out!
Wayne

Segway of Alberta - Calgary
www.mysegway.ca

[wwhopper]

You should find an out of warranty test dummy and play with that. That is what my car guys do. The moment it goes out of warranty it goes up on the lifts and comes down ready to rock and roll and race!

But if you don't care about the warranty - just go full tilt! The gyros will keep you stable!

Will W Hopper
DCSEG Member
Come out to the Mid-Atlantic Regional SEG America Event - SegwayFest - DC Sept 23-25 in Washington DC - The Most Segway Friendly City in America!

[W9GFO]

You don't need to remove the rivet at the top of the CS to remove the handlebar. Just pull it straight up then twist - it will come right out.

Rich H

The Un-Official Segway Battery FAQ
http://www.spinfoot.com/SegwayBatteryFAQ.html

[KSagal]

I may have mis-understood earlier posts.

If you want to remove the entire CS from the unit, it is simple as loosening the bolt on the CS base, then pulling it up. It is best to reduce the height of the shaft so not to put too much strain on the wires... Then just disconnect the two connectors.

If you want to remove the handlebar section from the CS shaft, pry up the rubber skin between the keyport and the display. I usually leave it on at the display and just fold it away from the keyport.

Under this grey rubber, is a 4 or 5 mm socket. Loosen it several turns. I don't think it is necessary to remove it, just loosen it...

It is connected to a 45 degree slip joint. (When you tighten it, it offsets and grabs the inside of the CS)

When that bolt is loose, you will feel play in the handlebar. The rivit that you may be speaking of sticks into the side of the CS at the very top of the aluminium. There is a track that is in the side of the plastic insert that is the base of the handlebar. Once you have lifted the handle bar about 1.5 inches, you must rotate the handlebar relative to the rivit. Think of a slot car. The rivit will follow a track that has a 90 degree turn in it, but then will allow you to remove it the rest of the way...

I hope this helps... Nothing but two loosened (Not removed) bolts to this point...

Good luck.

Karl Ian Sagal

Each road you travel should be just a bit better for having had you pass.

[Rocktopper]

OK guys, lets keep going...

I have a handlebar that the steering grip is broken off. Having obtained a new one, I wish to open the broken handlebar, so that I can see what is inside of it and why it stopped working when I drove a screw into the broken grip. I have paid enough money to want satisfy my curiosity. I too may want to run an additional run of wiring through the control shaft for whatever reason...



Does anyone know how to seperate the top and bottom of the handlebar?

Rocktopper

Vietnam Veterans of America : "Never again shall one generation of veterans abandon another."

[KSagal]

1. Hammer and stone chisle
2. Drill holes and well placed M80s
3. Band saw
4. tied beteen north and south facing wild horses
5. Ask George Reeeves or his successor for help.
6. hand Phaser, set to "cut"

The list goes on...

The steering works, as I understand it based on a magnetic field between the two powerful magnets in the turnable hand grip and a fixed sensor in the shaft that the grip is on. I would imagine that once you open that field, you must be careful to be sure not to change the magnetic fields or change the continuity points with any added metal to the area.

A broken right hand grip has a potential for a reasonable repair, but I have not heard of a broken steering grip repair that has lasted any reasonable time...

Karl Ian Sagal

Each road you travel should be just a bit better for having had you pass.

[W9GFO]

To take apart the handlebar you first remove the plastic bumper piece from the front. It just snaps in place. A putty knife is useful to pry it off.

Separating the handle bar halves just takes work. It is welded together. I use a heavy knife, screw drivers and a stiff putty knife to work it apart.

Rich H

The Un-Official Segway Battery FAQ
http://www.spinfoot.com/SegwayBatteryFAQ.html

[austin@SOH]

Rocktopper, if you are unable to fix the handlebar, we can order the replacement without the control shaft. We are a segway authorized service ceneter. Please let us know if you need any help.

Austin Colby (Austin@SOH)
Segway of Hagerstown
339 West Antietam Street
Hagerstown, MD 21740
Phone: (301) 766-0488 Mon-Fri 10am-6pm EST
Fax: (301) 766-0215

[Stan671]

I have removed my Control Shaft Base from the platform in order to paint it. There are three screws holding it to the platform. I was able to easily unplug the two multi-conductior cables coming up from the platform into the circuit board in the CSB. When I was done painting, it all went back together very easily.

Of course, Your Mileage May Vary, and I am not responsible for any wrecked platforms or CSB's.

If you want to run a wire down the CS into the CSB and out the bottom, you will have trouble getting past the seal inside the top of the CSB where the CS wires go.

Stan Dobrowski

[BarnyFife]

About taking the connector off of the power base from the CSB, be careful with the plastic tabs that secure the connectors, they are fragil, and if broken, you just bought a new power base. Those connectors are soldered right to the twin controller boards. Without the tabs the connectors will work loose.